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In Reply to: RE: We must be reading different reviews posted by E-Stat on December 18, 2014 at 14:13:23
What about this part:
"Devialet's D-Premier amplifier is the most extraordinary product I have reviewed for Stereophile. Superb sound quality, future-proof design, everything you need in one box—it is the epitome of what a high-end audio product should be. Wow!"
He didn't say "best amp ever" but it was probably the most rave review I've seen Atkinson write.
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JA can be much more explicit when he finds better...
"All of the first-order sonic attributes—frequency balance, linearity, lack of coloration, etc.—are beyond reproach, which means one needs to focus on such higher-order qualities as the presentation of the soundstage and the accuracy of the imaging, neither of which can be measured. But with Ayre's KX-R Twenty, I had no difficulty reaching a conclusion: While $27,500 is a high price to pay for a line preamplifier, the KX-R Twenty is as good as a preamplifier can get. "
That was from the Ayre KX-R Twenty review.
There's no need to pussyfoot about "competitive pricing" or the component being "almost better" than something else.
...everything you need in one box
Who cares about stuffing everything in one box at that price point?
I have no doubt that JA would prefer a KX-R Twenty + MX-R Twenty + DAC of choice over the Devialet. I know I would.
Who cares about stuffing everything in one box at that price point?
I'm guessing it's mostly people who, for various reasons, want a simpler system without sacrificing high end performance. And people who are into modern minimalist design. It's so those people can have their cake and eat it too. There are some people who go for it based on sound alone, but I suspect it's more typically a combination of sound, looks, and convenience.
I have no doubt that JA would prefer a KX-R Twenty + MX-R Twenty + DAC of choice over the Devialet. I know I would.
Nor do I. There's no need to foment BS about what someone has actually said with gear at the level of the Ayre stuff.
I'm guessing it's mostly people who, for various reasons, want a simpler system without sacrificing high end performance.
Simpler system? Are there folks who are challenged to expend a half hour (once) to hook up a source--> preamp--> power amp? I've been doing that since I was 16. Evidently, they most certainly don't have an HT system which always requires far more complexity.
Sorry, I must be missing something. :)
Simpler system? Are there folks who are challenged to expend a half hour (once) to hook up a source--> preamp--> power amp? I've been doing that since I was 16. Evidently, they most certainly don't have an HT system which always requires far more complexity.
Sorry, I must be missing something. :)
Lots of different reasons. Some people want to save space because they have a small apartment or condo in a desirable neighborhood in the city. Some people just like to live leaner with a smaller footprint of stuff to 'tie them down'. Some are going through a 'purging' stage in life. And I think some people suffer a constant temptation to change & tweak stuff in their system and eliminating components reduces that.
I can empathize. After living overseas for a few years and then returning to my typical suburban US home, the first thing I wanted to do was get rid of all that 'stuff' that I had happily lived without. Among other things, I upgraded my main system and it shrunk from 8 items on the rack to 2. I got more satisfaction from selling and giving away the audio gear I had accumulated than acquiring it in the first place. Unlike many audiophiles, I have never been interested in collecting anything. Different strokes I guess.
I'm not a "collector" of components either nor have stacks of redundant components like an audio dealer. :)For a given footprint, however, I find little difference between two components on a rack vs. four. My rooms have eight foot ceilings.
Returning to the original assertion, however, I seriously doubt that the majority of audiophiles find some pressing need to buy an all-in-one product.
Edits: 12/19/14
..Atkinson wrote magnificent "twice" to indicate how great this amp was. "The most extraordinary product" - in 26 years, since he joined Stereophile.Other Stereophile writers have used PS Audio and Bel Canto switchers (as their reference) starting back in 2005.
...oooh how I love ignorance...
Edits: 12/18/14
I owned the PS Audio Class D amp for a short time...horrible sounding piece of trash.
Paul thought so , so no more CLass-D .....
And yet you bought it...?
try it! you know you want to!
Got it as a partial trade for something else without hearing it, figuring I could resell it to someone with hearing damage without problem if it sucked...it did and it was relatively easy to move so I did. It was pretty good as a subwoofer amp but that was about it.
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No cogging is like saying no feedack, all relative ......... :)
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Ya - you're missing a lot...
Do you lack having a couple of square feet in your listening space to support separate components? Sorry to hear that!
I forgot to mention the Devialet reviews. John Atkinson (editor of Stereophile) "best amp ever" when he reviewed it...
It's really sad when you feel you must make boldface lies to support your argument.
Do you have a grasp on reality?
but it is always fun to see the same naysayers pop up in every class d thread denying reality and continuing to repeat their same tired and trite pronouncements about what's "best".
try it! you know you want to!
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