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In Reply to: RE: "The EU needs Britain more than we need the totally corrupt EU." posted by Disbeliever on December 14, 2014 at 23:21:03
The UK has NEVER been the largest european market for Germany, that has always been France.
The UK as an export market has shrunk over the last 10 years from 15% of all german exports to 10%, the same percentage as Italy. The Netherlands take just over 11% of german exports.
Over the same time period China as a market has grown from 1.5% to 9.5%.
The UK only takes 6.6% of french exports, less than Germany (15%), Belgium/Luxembourg (8.8%), Italy (7.1%) and the USA (6.9%).
The UK takes 4.7% of italian exports, less than Germany (12%), France (10%), USA (7.4%) and Switzerland (5.7%).
The UK receives 9.4% of dutch exports, less than Germany (20%) and Belgium/Luxembourg (17%).
Spain exports 6.2% of their goods to the UK, less than to France (15%), Germany (10%) and Portugal (7.1%).
So while some EU countries would lose between 5 and 10% of their export markets the UK would still lose 60%.
As a market place the UK is not nearly as important as you seem to believe.
One of the reasons Germany has a smaller deficit than the UK is because they did not give their banks free money like the british did. They gave their banks loans with conditions attached, like that as long as a bank owes money to the german government nobody in that bank can earn more than €750k pa including bonuses. The banks paid back their loans within 2 years.
Economically Germany exceeded pre-'08 crash output in 2011 without implementing austerity cuts while Britain is still not quite there yet. The cuts made by the UK slowed growth and extended the recession by at least 3 or 4 years.
On the other hand over the last 10 years the impact of european migrants to the UK has been a net benefit of £20billion to the UK economy. Migrants are substantially less likely to claim benefits of any kind than UK citizens.
Green policies are good for the economy. In Germany they added over 350 000 permanent and highly skilled jobs to the economy. But then again Germanys aim is to be independent of fossil fuels by 2050 while in the UK the politicians never seem to plan past the next election.
As for corruption: It is true that the UK ranks lower in the international corruption index than most other EU countries. But that is mostly because activities which would garner a prison sentences in those countries are perfectly legal in the UK, like large corporate or individual donations to political parties.
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I do not know where you are getting many of these unbelievable statistics from but it makes me even more determined to vote for UKIP despite unfortunately it probably means that Red Ed is likely to become the next PM.
A couple of minutes on google and you could have found them yourself but you chose to believe the lies fed to you by UKIP.Interesting that you would vote for a french banker and his german wife in the mistaken belief that it might be better for Britain.
I suppose the irony in that completely escapes you.
Edits: 12/15/14
Are you a Lib-Dem ?
What makes you think that?
Is it because I agree with the Confederation of British Industry regarding EU membership?
As it happens I have no affiliation to any party.
When it comes to voting I go with WC Fields: "I have never voted for any party, only ever against."
In May I will vote against UKIP and their brain-dead claptrap as they seem to be hell bent on destroying the british economy for good.
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