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In Reply to: RE: Sorry, but still not buying it ... posted by fantja on November 10, 2014 at 13:48:41
Get the earplugs handy!! Analytical speakers with analytical amps...could be deadly...
A good friend of mine has CS3.7s and we have tried them with a lot of different amps. Most end up sounding too analytical. The best match was a VAC 30/30 and a KR VA350i. The worst was McIntosh MC501 monos. We will be trying a NAT hybrid integrated soon...it should sound good as well.
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I thought Electrocompaniet had a reputation for being full bodied and a bit soft on top.
Not sure about that...just call it like I heard it.
Interesting...
the CS 3.7 are certainly power-hungary speakers. The only integrated amp that I would consider, would be, the Anthem 225. A perfect fit for these speakers.
Well, they are still 91db/watt sensitive as well. You can push a pair of them up to close to 100db without all that much power. At a 3 meter listening position in the room you probably can get to 100db on less
91db X2 speakers = 94db about
drop (in room) at 3 meters about 3db (it is much less than theory thanks to reflections...been there done that got the measurements)
So,
91db/watt for a pair at 3 meters (already kind of loud)
94db = 2 watts
97db = 4 watts
100db = 8 watts
103db = 16 watts
106db = 32 watts
Now, I don't know about you but my normal listening sessions are in the low 80s with peaks probably around 100-103db. Often lower than that. If the music is heavily compressed then the average is higher but the peaks similar i would guess.
This illustrates quite nicely that a 20 or 30 watt amp with sufficient current drive for lowish impedance will work great with the Thiel in a normal sized room (up to 600 square feet or so). Both the VAC 30/30 and KR audio VA350i meet this criteria nicely and sound worlds better doing so than the SS amps under discussion.
If the speaker doesn't compress heavily until at least 100db then this is relatively accurate. Of course insensitive speakers like ATCs will start compressing very early and will of course need lots of power to reach these volumes.
Interesting...
They can drive just about any speakers you can throw at them. They will drive the Thiels quite nicely.
"What this country needs is a good 5 watt amplifier!" (Paul Klipsch)
And sound like crap doing so. You guys seriously want an analytical sound it seems.
Thanks Again! Freo-1.
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