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In Reply to: RE: GOLDMUND JOB 225 AMPLIFIER posted by Disbeliever on October 09, 2014 at 00:12:31
Is this the same Goldmund that repackaged a $200 Pioneer DV300 DVD player in their own sheet metal (with barely any changes) and priced it at $6000?
I'd really, REALLY, want to do business with a company like that.....NOT!
Check out the write up and links @ Lampizator.
Caveat Emptor,
Al
Follow Ups:
I believe you are referring to Lexicon.
"We are all in God's hands... and God is a malign thug."
-Mark Twain
No, I'm not referring to Lexicon!
If this is Goldmund of Switzerland then they are the same company that re-boxed a $200 Pioneer DVD300 and marketed it for $6,000 just a few years ago. It was quite the scandal but some audiophiles tend to forget, sometimes on purpose. My take on it is that past performance is usually the best predictor of future performance.
Is this "new" Goldmund amplifier merely a cosmetically altered cheap Chinese product as sold by obscure Asian marketers on e-bay? Who knows?
At the asking price I doubt that it's manufactured in Switzerland. I'm not trying to be a price snob but one has to wonder, considering Goldmund's past history.
Just Google this or go to the Lampizator review (with included links) to find out about the Goldmund/Pioneer debacle for yourself!
Cheers,
Al
Here's a note Anne (of Job) sent to 6moons:
To: Srajan Ebaen
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 4:38 PM
Subject: Job 225 amplifiers
"'You might have heard of the new Job 225 which Job Electronics created recently. You can find more information on our stereo amp here. We were wondering whether you'd be interested in reviewing one. Thank you. - Anne, Job Electronics (cc: Michel Reverchon, C.E.O., Goldmund Intl.*)
"'Job Electronics Inc. is a California company to closely control US sales. We gave 225 production to the same Swiss firm which makes Goldmund electronics, Digital Audio SA of Geneva. Job Electronics and Digital Audio SA are part of the AIHC Group. The 225 uses the latest version of the JOB circuit also used by Goldmund and Stellavox. These are all various iterations of a similar schematic.'"
"The address label on their sturdy double-boxed carton read "Goldmund, Digital Audio SA, Chemin du Pre Fleuri 3, 1228 Plan les Quates, Suisse". This laid to rest any lingering doubts diehard cynics might harbor about the utilitarian Job 225 really stemming from that bespoke stable."
If you don't become the ocean, you'll be seasick every day.
—Leonard Cohen
Doesn't prove a thing, says this "diehard cynic"!
The Pioneer/Goldmund ripoff was also double boxed and carried a Swiss address.
I remain extremely skeptical of any company that can engage in this kind of deception and insist that it isn't doing anything dishonest. Next thing you know they'll be pissing on your shoes while insisting that it's only raining.
Cheers,
Al
based on Srajan's visit to their site, that the Job products are built in, and ship from, Geneva.
If you don't become the ocean, you'll be seasick every day.
—Leonard Cohen
How much did they pay for the review?
Cheers,
Al
That visit was before the new business model took effect.
If you don't become the ocean, you'll be seasick every day.
—Leonard Cohen
Thanks! for sharing- A1. Very important to expose this company. if this in fact, did occur.
fantja,
This happened a while back. It was all over the 'net. Funny how people forget.
I made it easy and attached a link. Just follow the other links attached to the lampizator link, then decide if this, in fact, did occur.
Cheers,
Al
Thank You!
Cary Audio made the same blunder with there DVD-8 universal player around 2007. It was a $170 Oppo DVD970 in Cary skin selling for $1200. They didn't even change the remote other than the Cary logo instead of Oppo's.
Though they make nice tube amps, I've likewise always wondered if there totl cdps were cheap products made by obscure Chinese manufacturers in Cary skin.
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