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In Reply to: RE: I disagree posted by Ozzie on May 19, 2012 at 20:29:35
I have not seen or sold one of these amps in production-ready status, as they have been undergoing metalwork issues. Nor have I been promoting them here.As such, they didn't enter my mind when posting what I thought was a reasonable suggestion arising from years of experience voicing systems all over North America.
(FWIW - I use Quicksilver Mid-Mono amps, which sell for $1895/pr.)
What did enter my mind was the hundreds of systems set-up by audiophiles with mismatched amps that I've heard that were satisfying on a sound-effects-level, but never on a serving-the-music-level.
You can say all that you like in a disparaging manner - however, it was my intent to help and is the only reason I post here.
I do not and have not mentioned the products I sell. Well, actually that's not entirely true - I was asked various questions about Avantgardes when I was the distributor from 2000-2005 and - honestly speaking - get lots of e-mails even now. But I've always tried to reply as factually as possible, but minus the hype we sometimes see in certain quarters.
All that being said, I'd be surprised if your system is performing at more than 50% of its performance capabilities if you reject common-sense advice from folks with vastly more successful experience that you have.
But it your prerogative to make character insinuations.
When you think about the manufacturer/industry types who no longer post here, this is an excellent example of an inducement to just give up on providing advice.
Not that my advice is anything special, but I've been contributing here when I thought I could help for about 12 years. Go back and read what I've said and look for self-aggrandizement.
Not sure why, but the description of my advice as bunk especially hurts. Hopefully you were just having a bad day when you wrote it.
Best regards,
Jim Smith
Edits: 05/20/12 05/20/12Follow Ups:
Well, that of course isn't the case, it's special indeed. How many other people set-up or advise on set-up of home audio systems professionally?
I've got a great dermatologist but he wouldn't be my first choice to fix a compound fracture. Even if he has the knowledge and license, I want the experience!
I got a kick out of your concern over running production changes. Now that IS something I'm intimately familiar with but most folks probably don't even know that there is such a thing let alone have a clue how production control is actually implemented or what the assumptions and tradeoffs are. Just your mentioning it says a great deal both about your thoroughness and perhaps the ilk of the problem.
Thanks for sharing from your unique perspective, I selfishly hope you keep it up!
Regards, Rick
Sorry Jim. I looked at your equipment listing and you have 5 or 6 different amps listed. From the hype surrounding The Lars, it should be the be all end all. As far as mismatching amps, many "industry professionals," Gizmo among them, have suggested push pull tubes for the lows and single ended tubes for the highs. Sounds like they have some 'splaining to do. At a yearly show in Dallas a manufacturer of an 8 K speaker provides the option of a single amp or tri amping his speakers. With a sand amp on the LF and the above listed amps on the mids and highs the system was open and coherent as all get out. It made the single amp running through his crossover sound closed in. Must have been dumb luck, or just my less informed knowledge of what sounds right.
Hey Ozzie,
Thanks so much for your note.
I really appreciate it.
After I went to Church, all I could think of was what an over-sensitive wuss I am.
And it's not exactly like we're worrying about world peace.
It's our hobby!
Thanks again!
Best regards,
Jim Smith
Well said Jim, always a gentleman.
Now that the scurmish has settled. I am curious about something that cost $80K which is a new amp of some sort, I guess, that is called a LARS. If it is not an amp - is it a speaker? Never heard of it but evidently Jim Smith has much to do with its production. Can anyone fill me in on this? Thanks in advance.
Steve
A lot of this info is out of date now.
That's because the owners went through some incredibly unfortunate personal health-related issues in the past 16 months, and the updates haven't been posted.
The first production models should ship in about 6 weeks.
They look a bit different, sound better, have more useable features that contribute to their sound as required by different speakers, and we will only import the power amps to the US, not the original integrateds.
http://www.thelars.se/
Best regards,
Jim Smith
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