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In Reply to: RE: Three good de-jittering devices in a row - posted by drrd on June 20, 2008 at 10:07:50:
You may actually be hearing non-jitter interactions between the computer and your system. There are at least two ways a computer can effect a system other than the data stream itself: radiated fields and power line noise.
I have a system that uses a very good clocking scheme (very low jitter clock right next to DAC chips, feeds clock to squeezebox to sync it to the DAC clock) and I can hear a difference between decoding FLAC and wav on the SB. I can measure the jitter at the DAC chip and it doesn't change, yet I hear a difference. It turns out its the radiated filds from the SB getting picked up by the analog parts of the system. I checked the filds in the vicinity of the preamp and they DO change when switching from FLAC to wav.
You might be hearing something similar, the pace car has cleaned up the jitter, so now you can clearly hear the effects of the other methods of the computer affecteng sound.
You could try things like changing the distance or orientation between the computer and the system, changing power cords on the computer, monitor etc. Computer power cords can emit a lot of stuff, changing the cord to a well shielded type can make a big difference.
See if any of that sort of thing makes any difference, if it does that might give you some hints as to what to do next.
John S.
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Topic - Pace Car - ClarKit 12:18:14 06/19/08 ( 56)
- Three good de-jittering devices in a row - - seger 08:01:09 06/20/08 ( 55)
- RE: Three good de-jittering devices in a row - - ClarKit 15:22:12 06/20/08 ( 0)
- RE: Three good de-jittering devices in a row - - drrd 10:07:50 06/20/08 ( 53)
- RE: Three good de-jittering devices in a row - - John Swenson 06/20/08 15:24:58 06/20/08 ( 52)
- Another thing I have been considering... - Gordon Rankin 07:16:28 06/23/08 ( 20)
- RE: Another thing I have been considering... - audioengr 11:10:44 06/23/08 ( 19)
- Steve what would be the difference... between reclocker and ARSC on incoming jitter. - Gordon Rankin 15:36:05 06/23/08 ( 18)
- Here is the difference - audioengr 18:41:27 06/23/08 ( 17)
- Would have to disagree - Gordon Rankin 08:36:50 06/24/08 ( 16)
- RE: Would have to disagree - audioengr 11:16:23 06/24/08 ( 0)
- Gordon, I hesitate to bring this up in case I don't understand what you are saying, and .. - hermanesque 09:17:21 06/24/08 ( 14)
- Measurements have limited value - audioengr 11:13:18 06/24/08 ( 13)
- Steve, so when you make statements like "jitter almost as low" this is all determined by ear? /nt - hermanesque 13:42:01 06/24/08 ( 3)
- RE: Steve, so when you make statements like "jitter almost as low" this is all determined by ear? /nt - audioengr 14:49:18 06/24/08 ( 2)
- You can pick up Signal and Spectrum off ebay - Gordon Rankin 07:54:03 06/25/08 ( 1)
- I plan to get a SA on ebay - audioengr 10:22:17 06/25/08 ( 0)
- Steve common... yours ears - Gordon Rankin 12:30:01 06/24/08 ( 2)
- My ears - audioengr 13:39:44 06/24/08 ( 1)
- RE: My ears - Gordon Rankin 07:37:22 06/25/08 ( 0)
- RE: Measurements have limited value - Tony Lauck 12:18:49 06/24/08 ( 5)
- RE: Measurements have limited value - Gordon Rankin 07:50:20 06/25/08 ( 1)
- Significance - audioengr 10:30:59 06/25/08 ( 0)
- Published measurements and audibility studies - audioengr 15:11:45 06/24/08 ( 2)
- Outline of a research program - Tony Lauck 17:22:47 06/24/08 ( 1)
- RE: Outline of a research program - audioengr 17:41:35 06/24/08 ( 0)
RE: Three good de-jittering devices in a row - - audioengr 13:32:40 06/21/08 ( 7)
- RE: Three good de-jittering devices in a row - - John Swenson 00:09:37 06/22/08 ( 6)
- RE: Three good de-jittering devices in a row - - Dawnrazor 08:46:54 06/23/08 ( 1)
- RE: Three good de-jittering devices in a row - - audioengr 11:13:11 06/23/08 ( 0)
- Spectrum Analyzer - audioengr 11:33:35 06/22/08 ( 3)
- RE: Spectrum Analyzer - John Swenson 14:15:48 06/22/08 ( 2)
- any idea if a Tektronix TDS3052B 500MHz scope with FFT allow you to see the same thing? /nt - hermanesque 16:12:33 06/22/08 ( 1)
- RE: any idea if a Tektronix TDS3052B 500MHz scope with FFT allow you to see the same thing? /nt - Gordon Rankin 07:17:52 06/23/08 ( 0)
RE: Three good de-jittering devices in a row - - soundchekk 03:35:42 06/21/08 ( 11)
- RE: Three good de-jittering devices in a row - - drrd 15:26:14 06/22/08 ( 3)
- Steps I'm taking - audioengr 19:36:05 06/22/08 ( 2)
- RE: Steps I'm taking - drrd 06:37:27 06/23/08 ( 1)
- New circuit board - audioengr 11:15:17 06/23/08 ( 0)
RE: Three good de-jittering devices in a row - - Tony Lauck 18:32:49 06/21/08 ( 6)
- RE: Three good de-jittering devices in a row - - rick_m 06:25:17 06/22/08 ( 0)
RE: Three good de-jittering devices in a row - - soundchekk 05:24:07 06/22/08 ( 4)
- Foobar - audioengr 11:38:37 06/22/08 ( 2)
- RE: Foobar - soundchekk 00:24:25 06/23/08 ( 1)
- RE: Foobar - audioengr 11:22:54 06/23/08 ( 0)
RE: Three good de-jittering devices in a row - - Tony Lauck 09:31:34 06/22/08 ( 0)
RE: Three good de-jittering devices in a row - - drrd 16:04:10 06/20/08 ( 10)
- Actually - audioengr 22:29:08 06/20/08 ( 9)
- Pace-Car Power Supply/Grounding - Cappy 10:20:32 06/21/08 ( 0)
- RE: Actually - drrd 05:52:47 06/21/08 ( 5)
RE: Actually - seger 01:30:30 06/21/08 ( 1)
- RE: Actually - audioengr 11:03:02 06/21/08 ( 0)