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In Reply to: Why is surround sound not "high end"? posted by Raymond Leggs on July 14, 2012 at 21:27:41:
After more than 40 years of listening to music in stereo, about 3 years ago I finally found multichannel sound that surpassed stereo. The breakthrough for me was the combination of great multichannel recordings (mainly classical music, it is true), better DSP processing, and Audyssey room correction.
Find somebody who has a good multichannel system and listen to Mahler's 2nd Symphony conducted by Ivan Fischer on Channel Classics and you will be convinced. Or Vivaldi's La Stravaganza with Rachel Podger also on Channel Classics... or Martin Ostertag playing Bach's Cello Suites on Coviello Classics.
Yes, a solo instrument such as a cello sounds better on multichannel than in stereo! The reason, as Kal Rubinson points out, is that multichannel is better able to reproduce the acoustics of the recording venue. I am not talking about being surrounded by the cello, an effect that would be weird and unappealing. The cello is simply more realistically present in multichannel than in stereo. Stereo may be able to reproduce the reverberation of the recording venue, but it cannot accurately reproduce the direction of much of the reflected sound.
Current DSP processors are very good, lacking the irritating digital edge and the exageration of earlier ones.
Finally, Audyssey room correction (and similar other ones), improves the sound to such a degree and without undesirable side-effects that I cannot imagine listening to music without it. Yes, passive room sound treatments are good. But passive room sound treatments plus Audyssey is even better!
I use an Integra 80.3 processor and 3 class A amps to power my Magnepans and Spendors. It is the best sound I have ever had.
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Topic - Why is surround sound not "high end"? - Raymond Leggs 21:27:41 07/14/12 ( 67)
- RE: Why is surround sound not "high end"? - pictureguy 10:02:46 07/18/12 ( 3)
- RE: Why surround sound is not "high end?" - Sumflow 23:55:15 07/20/12 ( 2)
- RE: Why surround sound is not "high end?" - Raymond Leggs 15:09:53 07/21/12 ( 1)
- RE: Why surround sound is not "high end?" - Raymond Leggs 15:16:47 07/21/12 ( 0)
RE: Why is surround sound not "high end"? - hahax@verizon.net 21:19:08 07/15/12 ( 0)
RE: Why is surround sound not "high end"? - pictureguy 12:21:26 07/15/12 ( 12)
- RE: Why is surround sound not "high end"? - josh358 17:37:42 07/18/12 ( 4)
- RE: Why is surround sound not "high end"? - pictureguy 17:57:35 07/18/12 ( 3)
- RE: Why is surround sound not "high end"? - josh358 18:15:52 07/18/12 ( 2)
- RE: Why is surround sound not "high end"? - pictureguy 21:26:33 07/18/12 ( 1)
- RE: Why is surround sound not "high end"? - josh358 06:52:29 07/19/12 ( 0)
RE: Why is surround sound not "high end"? - 3db 04:47:56 07/18/12 ( 1)
- RE: Why is surround sound not "high end"? - pictureguy 09:08:57 07/18/12 ( 0)
Is there a conflict here? ;-) - Kal Rubinson 13:03:42 07/15/12 ( 4)
- LOL !! - AbeCollins 13:32:27 07/15/12 ( 3)
- RE: LOL !! - pictureguy 18:42:22 07/15/12 ( 2)
- Too much information. It was just a jab. (NT) - Kal Rubinson 07:17:57 07/16/12 ( 1)
- RE: Too much information. It was just a jab. (NT) - pictureguy 08:11:45 07/16/12 ( 0)
For me, multichannel is better than stereo - Tubo 07/15/12 10:23:25 07/15/12 ( 2)
- Now that's a convincing argument - Craiger56 20:48:16 07/15/12 ( 1)
- RE: Now that's a convincing argument - middleground 09:49:49 07/17/12 ( 0)
Says who? - mark111 09:50:18 07/15/12 ( 0)
I spent a lot on a surround system.. Just not as much as on my two channel - Elizabeth 09:16:33 07/15/12 ( 16)
- Elizabeth which Bryston do you have? nt - theob 09:38:25 07/15/12 ( 15)
- Bryston BP-26 and 1.5 phono, plus Bryston 4B-SST2 nt - Elizabeth 10:18:50 07/15/12 ( 14)
- RE: Bryston BP-26 and 1.5 phono, plus Bryston 4B-SST2 nt - theob 12:57:20 07/15/12 ( 0)
- RE: Bryston BP-26 and 1.5 phono, plus Bryston 4B-SST2 nt - theob 12:12:53 07/15/12 ( 12)
- RE: Bryston BP-26 and 1.5 phono, plus Bryston 4B-SST2 nt - Raymond Leggs 12:31:54 07/15/12 ( 4)
- RE: Bryston BP-26 and 1.5 phono, plus Bryston 4B-SST2 nt - abs1 13:41:45 07/15/12 ( 3)
- RE: Bryston BP-26 and 1.5 phono, plus Bryston 4B-SST2 nt - tmsorosk 15:05:06 07/15/12 ( 2)
- Sometimes the used bargain is a great relief from over the top high prices.. - Elizabeth 15:54:30 07/15/12 ( 1)
- RE: Sometimes the used bargain is a great relief from over the top high prices.. - Raymond Leggs 16:01:45 07/15/12 ( 0)
- RE: Bryston BP-26 and 1.5 phono, plus Bryston 4B-SST2 nt - theob 12:28:14 07/15/12 ( 6)
- RE: Bryston BP-26 and 1.5 phono, plus Bryston 4B-SST2 nt - Dawnrazor 22:46:57 07/15/12 ( 3)
- RE: Bryston BP-26 and 1.5 phono, plus Bryston 4B-SST2 nt - theob 05:44:44 07/16/12 ( 2)
- RE: Bryston BP-26 and 1.5 phono, plus Bryston 4B-SST2 nt - Dawnrazor 21:23:58 07/18/12 ( 1)
- RE: Bryston BP-26 and 1.5 phono, plus Bryston 4B-SST2 nt - theob 05:58:16 07/19/12 ( 0)
- RI bought the DEQ2496 on a whim and have never really explored it's capabilities, i do use it pass through - Elizabeth 13:49:41 07/15/12 ( 1)
- RE: RI bought the DEQ2496 on a whim and have never really explored it's capabilities, i do use it pass through - theob 15:11:50 07/15/12 ( 0)
Space and Pride - genungo 08:37:48 07/15/12 ( 0)
You are too concerned with labels. (NT) - Kal Rubinson 07:49:26 07/15/12 ( 0)
RE: Why is surround sound not "high end"? - middleground 06:47:49 07/15/12 ( 0)
RE: Why is surround sound not "high end"? - middleground 06:42:15 07/15/12 ( 0)
fine for movies - tmsorosk 05:57:37 07/15/12 ( 15)
- Wrong. - Kal Rubinson 07:48:14 07/15/12 ( 13)
- RE: Wrong. - Paully 10:47:54 07/15/12 ( 12)
- RE: Wrong. - josh358 17:07:03 07/18/12 ( 3)
- RE: Wrong. - Paully 17:39:27 07/18/12 ( 2)
- RE: Wrong. - josh358 17:51:36 07/18/12 ( 1)
- Right - tmsorosk 17:53:11 07/18/12 ( 0)
- RE: Wrong. - middleground 11:31:55 07/16/12 ( 0)
- Methinks you misunderstood Kal's comments - willkayakforfood 11:19:18 07/15/12 ( 6)
- And music from a 2-channel system also has reflected sound; engineers realize this (good ones) and so create. - tinear 16:05:10 07/15/12 ( 1)
- But it comes at you from the wrong direction! (nt) - Kal Rubinson 17:53:59 07/15/12 ( 0)
- RE: Methinks you misunderstood Kal's comments - Pally 13:35:16 07/15/12 ( 0)
Yup. (NT) - Kal Rubinson 12:58:40 07/15/12 ( 0)
Ambisonic encoding / recording may get much closer to correct surround recording. Interesting link, - cfb 12:28:21 07/15/12 ( 1)
- Perhaps. - Kal Rubinson 13:00:56 07/15/12 ( 0)
RE: fine for movies - middleground 06:42:53 07/15/12 ( 0)
I think it's the material - Frihed89 00:42:07 07/15/12 ( 4)
- not like Star Wars - pbarach 13:31:30 07/18/12 ( 1)
- RE: not like Star Wars - Raymond Leggs 14:57:05 07/18/12 ( 0)
RE: I think it's the material - abs1 04:33:27 07/15/12 ( 1)
- Nice. - Kal Rubinson 08:45:45 07/15/12 ( 0)
Different mind sets. - Teresa 23:32:29 07/14/12 ( 0)
RE: Why is surround sound not "high end"? - russ69 22:51:43 07/14/12 ( 0)
RE: Why is surround sound not "high end"? - Iron Knee 22:29:03 07/14/12 ( 0)