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Mostly agree, esp. about the 9090...(yucko!)

Posted by Otis on July 8, 2012 at 12:42:49:

It's been many years now but I was really excited to find a 9090 -- until I heard it. It was the most lifeless sounding vintage piece ever...until the 'loudness' button was engaged. Then it came to life.
Later came a few others including a G87000 something, and it too was unsatisfying, so I wrote off the brand.

The 50-series Pioneers were as you described, muscular but perhaps a bit 'hard' sounding. I found them best with boxy east coast speakers, but too rough for revealing speakers like horns or 'stats. The bass was great though!