Music Lane

It's all about the music, dude! Sit down, relax and listen to some tunes.

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If you ahd read my posts to the thread, you'd know that I can only

Posted by Timbo in Oz on August 9, 2012 at 02:38:51:
believe it because I can't get inside anyone else's head. You'd also know my reasons for coming to that surmise. So you wouldn't be asking.
Let's look at sport, which IMO is as much a performance as any concert, and has the excitement of an uncertain outcome, and for a supporter of one or other team even more gripping. I was a strong supporter of the Canberra Raiders for a long time, but got busy and expanded my career.
I now love the game of cricket and am continually learning about it, the skills etc. But I have never played it other than in backyards, I was bored by it until I bothered to learn about it, in my twenties, at the level of player skills, teams and leadership. My two nephews both play cricket well enough to compete within the State/territory competition. And I've had sessions in front of the telly watching Australia play England and I KNOW they were more affected, and by more things more often than I was.
I played Rugby (League) at school, I fenced in Summer. Rugby League is a game where Australia is among the top three globally, and in Rugby (Union). I began in yr 10 and captained my team by year 12. No protective gear, no box and no mouth brace, so I lost a tooth.
I am not a 'jock' ? type and don't follow a team, or the national competition closely. I used to but gave it up. Viz. If there's a good concert on FM I'll choose it. But I am never bored watching a game at first class level. Riveting and affecting, because I have done it.
I have watched the American football final several times and find it boring, because I don't understand what is going on, mostly but all the stopping doesn't help. I get baseball a bit more as it is easier to follow, I think.
Also it's not 'just' because I 'can play an instrument' (I sing), nor 'just' that I can also perform with other musicians and respond to them. I 'just' can read music, I 'just' understand form and development, and keys and their mood assignments in music history, etc, etc, etc, not 'just' any of them, but all those things together. And I've performed a lot of music and been to a lot of concerts and operas as a listener.
How do YOU know whether someone really gets some music, or doesn't?
I think it's a given that some people are more musical than others, do you agree? That some people are more intense in their responses to lots of aspects of living. Including how much they value real developed and considered thinking.
If so, why should it be that knowing how a work is written and performed and how that is built by rehearsal and practice, or more about some work's intent and structure, 'just' can't enhance a person's experience of it?
You have given me no cases for believing that it can't, won't, shouldn't and doesn't. 'Just' that you passionately believe it.
I don't 'want' my case to be so, but I do think it is.
In the case of classical music there is a structure and rules, and for each instrument (and groupings) an identifiable set of shifts in performance practice, going back centuries.
I am NOT suggesting that my surmise means to me that a person less educated in music's opinion is less valid for them, nor that the experience of music isn't intense for them. But I doubt it is as complex or as rich as mine and I have good reasons for thinking so.
When I listen to Jazz I realise that KavaKidd knows much more about it and has listened to it a lot more too, and I wish I did / had too, because I suspect reasonably I feel that he enjoys it more than I do, as a result.
I'm sorry that we disagree, and that you seem upset about this matter.
I don't feel superior about it at all, because it is something I was given the opportunity to develop, and almost for free, when my mother was a war widow with 5 kids in 1960. I am instead deeply grateful for it.