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In Reply to: RE: Or...it's getting easier by the day posted by P Fowler on April 16, 2009 at 20:14:10:
Believe me, my sympathies and enthusiasms rest on the side of solid, classic circuits, typically tube, or sources, or speakers, diy'd / restored by alternative-thinkers who couldn't abide by the mass-market audio they were being sold by extortion. I think we agree.But since you use the 301 analogy-- here's the thing. As you have it, I am sure it evolved as much from listening as it did from testing. But you don't listen and disdain testing as representative of "conventional" procedure. You start first with the solid testing part.
Whereas ... some diyers do not; if it sounds good, it is good is the motto of some rebels of internet diy audio. And that's wrongheaded.Nobody in their right mind would start tweaking a turntable for tone, timbre or 'musical' attributes had they not first deployed a stroboscope to test the basics. Use of test records and test tones would be early hurdles too.
Not all the diy nation is up to the challenges, yet they liberally participate in the net version of the game, as full charter-members. Maybe you've seen this happening.... So it's worth pointing out there are those who are submitting the book report without having read the book.There's no Diy Institute Of Standards; if sound comes out without electrocuting anybody, there's no further hurdle to be topped. Run to the keyboard and start educating the populace on another diy victory.
All I'm pointing out is that that SET sympathies, idler prat, and listening for 'musicality' are fine, required even, once the dry, tedious business of testing and accuracy are out of the way. And we've all seen enthusiastic but accuracy-deprived diy. Even right here at the vinyl asylum.
So I think there's a line between what can be reliably diy'd without expensive test equipment and what can't go any further without the rigorous testing. Homebuilt tonearms come to mind. I would hate to think my cartridges were handicapped by someone's untested, half-way vetted tonearm design procedure. And as goes the tonearm, so too throughout the system. Thats all.
J.
A question; I assume you test resistors and match them to their purpose, and that's easy enough to do with a Dmm. I assume you choose the right matches and toss the underperformers. Do you do the same, test the other discrete parts, chokes, caps, transformers-- and toss out the underperformers in those categories too ? When you have a first draft of an amp, do you run test tones, sweeps, etc and look at them on a scope ?
Commercial producers do, because they have to. And because it ensures a basic, bottom-line competence level, so that when I'm comparing expensive pressings or listening to tiny nuances between cartridges, I'm assured of a somewhat flat, fullrange sound, and not something 'creative' because of my diy-amp or diy-something-else.
To paraphrase what you've said, Creativity & Vision are not substitutes for Technology, at least in the early going.
One is a simple hurdle that must be cleared, the Technology. The others are the icing on the cake if you've got the first part sorted out already.
Edits: 04/17/09
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