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Dear AllI had just read an excellent article by Martin Colloms:
http://www.stereophile.com//reference/23/index.html
and it should be read by everyone who is looking to improve their music system. There was a sentence in the article that I want to specially mention:
"Scientifically trained, I failed to develop a proper awareness of this aspect (PRaT) of reproduction for many years, so committed was I to the analytical methods of sound-quality assessment."
Many Audiophiles with lots of experiencet can't see PRaT. I do not know when I developed my ears for PRaT, but it is perhaps the most important aspect right after tone.
With more of my time in this hobby spent mucking around with DIY amps, I can say that PRaT is not only in TT, cartridge, and tone arm designs, but in every thing that is in the chain of music reproduction. I can name Resistors and Capacitors that has no PRaT and even some hook up wires.
Not many people mentioned PRaT in AA, I am just hoping to expand PRaT to someone who have never experienced it.
Cheers
William
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Topic - Just wondering how many (here) understands and listen for PRaT? ... - KIS 14:55:39 09/23/06 (49)
- Thanks for the replies. Many miss my point about listening for PRaT .... - KIS 15:33:08 09/24/06 (1)
- For me it is easier to hear the lack of PRaT, as I try to listen to the music not the sound. - Teresa 18:55:23 09/24/06 (0)
- Great thread - Fretless 14:40:41 09/24/06 (0)
- Hey, I was born with it! Do we need some PRaT reporter to tell us about it? (nt) - Garth 08:26:21 09/24/06 (0)
- Hard to describe verbaly - Stale 08:08:38 09/24/06 (0)
- Re: Just wondering how many (here) understands and listen for PRaT? ... - Munkie_NL 02:04:39 09/24/06 (0)
- Re: Just wondering how many (here) understands and listen for PRaT? ... - Ken Lyon 00:40:20 09/24/06 (9)
- Rant..... - Salectric 04:57:04 09/24/06 (4)
- Keep the Rant going, we need more of your contribution ... - KIS 15:58:39 09/24/06 (0)
- Re: Rant..... - Fretless 15:34:10 09/24/06 (2)
- Re: Rant..... - kuma 17:57:35 09/24/06 (1)
- Re: Rant..... - Fretless 18:42:50 09/24/06 (0)
- Re: yep, some of us inmates live on Mars.... - user510 03:01:13 09/24/06 (2)
- Hey everybody.... Party at Steves house - damage k 10:33:31 09/24/06 (1)
- Re: that's one way...... - user510 12:29:01 09/24/06 (0)
- Re: Just wondering how many (here) understands and listen for PRaT? ... - Sylvian 01:19:50 09/24/06 (0)
- don't know when I discovered it, but very important to me now - FR Drew 23:54:26 09/23/06 (2)
- Does that make me a PRaT.... - damage k 10:26:24 09/24/06 (0)
- Re: don't know when I discovered it, but very important to me now - Sylvian 01:10:39 09/24/06 (0)
- I tend to agree with Tightwad in that it is the music itself that has the PRaT - artemus 19:51:36 09/23/06 (0)
- I listen to music, if the Pace, Rhythm and Timing (PRAT) are good I’ll return. - Teresa 19:20:36 09/23/06 (0)
- Reading that article makes my head hurt - M3Man 18:54:34 09/23/06 (0)
- I think Prat was the name of one of my CCD teachers. - Orso 18:32:12 09/23/06 (0)
- Re: Just wondering how many (here) understands and listen for PRaT? ... - ffrr 18:12:46 09/23/06 (0)
- Re: PRaT; the essential ingredient.... - user510 17:43:29 09/23/06 (0)
- What else is music but pace, rythym, and timing? - OMalley 17:22:33 09/23/06 (13)
- Melody, tonality, harmony.... - Mark Kelly 17:58:41 09/23/06 (12)
- You can have rhythm with no melody, but not the other way \nt - BatNastard 08:41:43 09/24/06 (0)
- and imaging and soundstaging . . . /nt\ - HenryH 18:05:05 09/23/06 (10)
- Yeah, Your VPI is great for that. (nt) - KIS 14:49:08 09/24/06 (0)
- Imaging and soundstaging is NOT music! (nt) - Tawe 08:26:08 09/24/06 (8)
- It is certainly part of music reproduction! - HenryH 10:16:28 09/24/06 (7)
- Fish-heads are part of a fish, but I don't eat em - Fretless 15:09:52 09/24/06 (5)
- Imaging and Pace, Rhythm & Timing are not the same thing and both are important to the total musical experience. - Teresa 18:37:26 09/24/06 (2)
- News Flash! Imaging and Pace, Rhythm & Timing are not the same thing. - Fretless 19:49:08 09/24/06 (1)
- Next time you get to hear a Piano live, close your eyes the actual image is MUCH larger than the piano itself - Teresa 20:26:16 09/24/06 (0)
- Poor example. /nt\ - HenryH 16:00:16 09/24/06 (1)
- Cripes, Henry, it was an attempt at humor, not an frickin' Example (nt) - Fretless 16:12:59 09/24/06 (0)
- Ummm, yes and no..... - JimL 13:34:41 09/24/06 (0)
- PRAT just another word for Swing ... It Don't Mean A Thing (If It Ain't Got That Swing) nt - bjh 17:02:36 09/23/06 (4)
- Musicians swing, hi-fi gear doesn't. Hence, PRaT is SHiTe. (nt) - Tightwad 17:05:05 09/23/06 (3)
- Some hi-fi gear swings, some doesn't - Rob Doorack 18:41:50 09/23/06 (1)
- I had one of them...and generally agree - spacedeckman 16:40:03 09/24/06 (0)
- PRat, like SHiTe, Happens.............Sometimes - Annalog 17:35:58 09/23/06 (0)
- PRAT in a tubular way.... - tubesforever 16:23:30 09/23/06 (0)
- Listening for prat is kind of missing the point - hair on fire 15:42:11 09/23/06 (2)
- right. It finds you instead. (nt) - user510 19:22:23 09/23/06 (0)
- I totally agree. (nt) - krenzler 16:12:29 09/23/06 (0)
- Because it's a difficult concept to grasp and too subjective... - kuma 15:24:07 09/23/06 (0)