Re: Are most of the posters here ......... /long

Posted by J.D. (A) on September 14, 2006 at 11:07:02

In Reply to: Are most of the posters here into DIY and Vintage equipment? posted by artemus on September 14, 2006 at 08:25:22:

Think your answer is No.
Impossible to narrow down the info, the interests here, or the goals that way.

Just to grab the automobile metaphor from below, if this were the Mercedes Benz Asylum, would we expect that all posts would concern the 2007 model year Benz ?
Nope, you'd be way off to consider only the immediate present.

Which is what makes pubs like AbSound and SPhile so deadly-dull, dead-end-street, flat and ignorable.
Their advertising base is well organized to push the few, the uninspired, the Current models.... *

Meanwhile, you'd also be way off to think that history stopped with the glory of the Model X back in 1967 or something. Progress in the Analog Lp field has continued to advance against all odds, even into the Digi-download Era.

If you've noticed a willingness around here to consider non-current gear, I think it's because there's not really much to discuss about a new Rega table, say -- (okay, put on the belt, plug it in, done)-- let alone one of the many knock-offs of same..... whereas some elaborate old Thorens or something may have a lot of settings, adjustments.... Engineering aspects that are not 'hands-off' to the User.

Acceptance of vintage (or better, Classic) gear doesn't imply any religious devotion to the past, however. A typical user here may have 9 out of 10 state-of-the-art components in a system that also features a turntable from 1955 as it's front end. And have Sound Quality that is incomparable. No rules, no oath of loyalty necessary.

And because of the acceptance of classic gear, the general willingness to consider do-it-yourself where applicable can at times be necessary, but also, just fits. If you are choosing a component partly because of it's 'hands-on adjustability', then it stands to reason that you are fairly well acquainted with Doing It Yourself, no ?

Last, of all possible Asylums, I think it's worth noting that one of the most 'hands-on' technologies in the system is the Lp Analog record player, so it naturally comes to : if you're here in the first place, there's going to be a pre-existing acceptance-of, and an agreement on, that mindset, that arrangement.

The idea is that of infinitely adjustable parameters being preferable to the audio no-brainer.
The "pick-up-remote-press-play" approach is not what we're about here, generally speaking.
We're about a perfectable (if never perfect) Source Technology, about 'Optimizing' what continues to be a work in progress, whether new, vintage, or hybrid.....

J.D.

((* It would seem right to point out the occasional exception, ie the half-article or so that gets under the wire by Dudley or Fremer...
But even those must generally comply with servicing a current Business Concern, eg an article about vintage Moving Coils can only happen by being about the retipping agents, an article about vintage Idlers will only occur if it can be about the sellers of new plinths, etc etc.
Even Ken Kessler's occasional classic-gear article is only grudgingly given absolute minimum page-space by HFNRR.
Half Credit, boys.
And none for any credible sense of "Audio Journal" that deserves the name. ))

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Topic - Are most of the posters here into DIY and Vintage equipment? - artemus 08:25:22 09/14/06 (35)

Nope, I just like music and vinyl gives me another avenue...NT - nubz 19:26:47 09/14/06 (0)

Not I (nt) - Supernaught 15:22:27 09/14/06 (1)

Music is my nourishment, audio my hobby - nightdoggy 15:18:33 09/14/06 (0)

...was a very good year... - Frank Waller 12:35:49 09/14/06 (0)

Most of my system is over 40 years old. n/t - Bung 12:05:35 09/14/06 (0)

Vintage yes (but not turntables - only tubes), DIY HELL YES!! - derekva 11:59:22 09/14/06 (0)

I am, both.........nt - LesF 11:50:06 09/14/06 (0)

count me under Vintage, DIY, Tubes, & Tweaks nt - steal2B 11:35:58 09/14/06 (0)

Re: Are most of the posters here into DIY and Vintage equipment? - Corsair 11:29:37 09/14/06 (0)

no idea - OMalley 11:27:12 09/14/06 (0)

I am! /nt\ - anumber1 11:26:27 09/14/06 (0)

Re: Are most of the posters here ......... /long - J.D. 11:07:02 09/14/06 (1)

Bravo! - mosin 15:20:08 09/14/06 (0)

Yep. (nt) - mosin 10:56:43 09/14/06 (0)

Both - arturo7 10:18:43 09/14/06 (0)

Yes and yes! (nt) - pkonin 10:12:48 09/14/06 (0)

Nope, not at all (except for the used vinyl itself)....n/t - NewStevo 10:08:17 09/14/06 (0)

not much DIY, unskilled - docw 10:08:09 09/14/06 (0)

Vintage yes....DIY..no ..I've had my solder gun confiscated - Ernie L 09:54:07 09/14/06 (0)

If you're in this hobby long enough, **it happens! - Muzikmike 09:51:26 09/14/06 (0)

And is this good or bad or just how it is? :-) - Pete Fowler 09:50:38 09/14/06 (2)

If we were all running the same TT, your analogy of the Porsche of Ferrari forum would hold - artemus 13:48:21 09/14/06 (1)

Oh dang, now I'm analogically challenged... - Pete Fowler 16:11:48 09/14/06 (0)

I would do some DIY but . . . - risabet 09:48:54 09/14/06 (0)

I DIY and restore vintage equipment - sjmikeb 09:32:31 09/14/06 (0)

maybe the issue is price - Bruce from DC 09:31:01 09/14/06 (0)

See postings on Garrard, Lenco, Thorens 124, Rek-o-kut, etc. - fatdaddy 09:10:15 09/14/06 (0)

Probably NOT. I find Vinyl DIY can be a great deal of fun. - tubesforever 09:03:14 09/14/06 (0)

Nope. I just don't recycle as often as the TAS or S'Pile "Darling-of-the-Month" club. /nt\ - Ray-o-Stat 08:50:04 09/14/06 (0)

Re: Are most of the posters here into DIY and Vintage equipment? - henryfool 08:49:04 09/14/06 (0)

Only vintage; it is cheap and has great sound (usually). )MT( - J. S. Bach 08:49:02 09/14/06 (0)

I am. (nt) - jcmjrt 08:41:04 09/14/06 (0)

yes (nt) - mhardy6647 08:39:58 09/14/06 (0)

I have an interest in old equipment and DIY... - freefallrob 08:33:50 09/14/06 (0)

No, why? Old farts always talk real loud! :-) (nt) - Garth 08:32:03 09/14/06 (0)

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Re: Are most of the posters here ......... /long - J.D. 11:07:02 09/14/06 (1)

Bravo! - mosin 15:20:08 09/14/06 (0)

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