RE: DD tables

Posted by M3 lover (A) on January 3, 2017 at 10:57:15

In Reply to: There's a lot of competition at this price point.... posted by vinyl1 on January 2, 2017 at 16:08:56:

"audiophiles have always put down Japanese direct-drive tables as sonically inferior"

vinyl1, unless that was said in jest (I missed the smiley face) I'm surprised anyone with your experience and interest in vinyl would make such a statement.

Chapter 1: after Technics introduced their DD design in the mid-70s, most Japanese and a few European turntable manufacturers followed with their own versions, including multiple expensive models intended for "audiophiles".

Chapter 2: prior to the invasion of digital with CDs in the '80s, and even after, many "audiophiles" kept and continued enjoying their reference DD tables.

Chapter 3: If they were always put down, why did so many survive to remain in use today? Sometime around 2000 as the revitalized interest in LPs began there was a parallel resurgence of interest in idler and DD tables. Over the ensuing years many older DD tables have been restored or upgraded and are in use today in high end systems. Those tables were sold by Technics, Denon, Kenwood, Sony, JVC, Micro Seiki, Pioneer, Luxman and probably others, all Japanese brands, though not exclusive to the overall revived interest in DD tables.

So now at least one Japanese company decides it to be worthwhile to go to the trouble and expense of designing and introducing a new DD model. At $4K I can't believe they expect anyone other than audiophiles and serious music listeners to be their target market.

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Topic - NYT on the SL-1200 saga - Steelhead Mike 05:23:27 01/02/17 (32)

Guess Panasonic isn't much familiar with... - musetap 20:36:47 01/02/17 (0)

RE: NYT on the SL-1200 saga - Curious 20:12:08 01/02/17 (2)

RE: NYT on the SL-1200 saga - bill_stevenson@bellsouth.net 08:32:32 01/04/17 (1)

Thanks Bill! - Curious 10:32:28 01/06/17 (0)

There's a lot of competition at this price point.... - vinyl1 16:08:56 01/02/17 (4)

RE: There's a lot of competition at this price point.... - flood2 16:08:19 01/10/17 (0)

Wow! - Lew 08:06:44 01/04/17 (0)

RE: DD tables - M3 lover 10:57:15 01/03/17 (1)

Ping! - flood2 16:12:16 01/10/17 (0)

Lots of confusion about the 1200 - M3 lover 15:09:05 01/02/17 (1)

RE: Lots of confusion about the 1200 - Lew 11:16:30 01/04/17 (0)

This article encapsulates what is wrong with the Hi End Industry - Ross 11:53:35 01/02/17 (2)

RE: This article encapsulates what is wrong with the Hi End Industry - bill_stevenson@bellsouth.net 11:28:17 01/03/17 (0)

well said. nt - 3+4=5 10:51:45 01/03/17 (0)

RE: NYT on the SL-1200 saga - Crazy Dave 09:38:14 01/02/17 (0)

It's confusing to me... - Bry 07:16:32 01/02/17 (16)

For non-DJ buyers... - Mr. Dick Hertz 09:33:15 01/02/17 (15)

RE: For non-DJ buyers... - ivanj 14:18:58 01/02/17 (14)

RE: For non-DJ buyers... - Lew 07:47:34 01/03/17 (0)

RE: For non-DJ buyers... - flood2 15:50:55 01/02/17 (11)

RE: For non-DJ buyers... - Mulane 21:41:02 07/15/17 (0)

RE: For non-DJ buyers... - bill_stevenson@bellsouth.net 11:43:54 01/03/17 (9)

RE: For non-DJ buyers... - Laila 15:06:09 01/03/17 (0)

Second that on the headshells! - flood2 13:00:21 01/03/17 (7)

RE: Second that on the headshells! - bill_stevenson@bellsouth.net 08:58:14 01/04/17 (0)

RE: Second that on the headshells! - Supercool! 14:33:03 01/03/17 (5)

RE: Second that on the headshells! - flood2 16:17:20 01/03/17 (4)

RE: Second that on the headshells! - Supercool! 21:38:43 01/03/17 (3)

RE: Second that on the headshells! - flood2 21:44:29 01/03/17 (2)

RE: Second that on the headshells! - Supercool! 11:16:15 01/04/17 (0)

RE: Second that on the headshells! - Supercool! 04:55:44 01/04/17 (0)

That actually would have been brilliant. -nt - Bry 15:09:05 01/02/17 (0)

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RE: DD tables - M3 lover 10:57:15 01/03/17 (1)

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