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Well, sorry if I came across as too harsh. But hmm.......

"I wish I lived in a world where every great recording was available on LP in clean condition and did not require cleaning."

Ahh, please point out where I said anything remotely like that. Why would I own a 16.5 if my LP's didn't need any cleaning at all? Ya know some of us see an LP that contains music we'd like to listen to but is in bad shape and choose to pass. I didn't realize most inmates hoped to accumulate "every great recording" regardless of the shape its in.

"Glad you're happy with your system, but most of us don't live in the same world you seem to be in."

I didn't mention my system either, let alone say anything about how happy I am with it. I simply said I don't feel the need for an ultrasonic RCM.

Most of us don't live in a world in which decisions about spending priorities are the norm? Most who own 16.5's feel the need for better cleaning? Doesn't seem like it from the posts I read.

HW's post talks about coming up with an ultrasonic cleaner for around a grand. 'Course I could be wrong, but I'd actually guess most owners of 16.5's (or similar RCM's) do live in a world similar to the one I live in, in which they likely prefer keeping their 16.5 or similar RCM and spending $1,000 or more on something other than an ultrasonic RCM. That's the impression I get reading the posts. Dunno about you, but in my world a grand ain't chickenshit.

Its true that a number of inmates rap about thrift shop/garage sale finds that may be pretty damn dirty. Dunno, maybe an ultrasonic would be advisable for them (and you?) if whatever LP cleaning regimen they currently use ain't satisfactory, and especially if they don't already own something like a 16.5. I said zilch that implied that nobody should get an ultrasonic, or that it'd be a waste of money, or that everybody is or should be satisfied with something like a 16.5.

I'm 67, have been buying LP's since I was 13, have taken good care of 'em, have had access to several very good sources of used LP's in NYC where I bought lottsa used records in damn good shape - hundreds at $3-5 or under, and bought a number LP's while traveling on the road that were/are also in damn good shape. I suspect quite a few inmates have had similar experiences with record buying, and of course plenty haven't. Dunno how you determined what the experience of "most" of us is.

I didn't post to give anybody grief about deciding to either spend thousands on a commercially available ultrasonic or make one for a grand as HW suggested. Those of us who do not feel a need for that also don't feel a need to be told we're Luddites.




Edits: 05/19/15

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