RE: What is behind the revival of the Shibata profile??

Posted by markinuk (A) on November 21, 2014 at 12:09:31

In Reply to: What is behind the revival of the Shibata profile?? posted by flood2 on November 20, 2014 at 12:58:40:

Although Van den Hul managed to patent his design in the Netherlands only! They were originally made by Fritz Geiger to his specifications, but they no longer manufacture them, having developed their own derivatives such as the FG70 and 80. Ortofon still use the former on the Blue model in their Cadenza MC series, while specifying their own Replicant (with a very long 100-micron contact line) in the next model up, and yet the Shibata on the Black (TOTR).

They must have their reasons, one supposes! The Replicant is also featured on their three top cartridges (aside from the SPU series) including the fabulously expensive 'MC Anna'. It seems likely that price (for a certain level of performance) and availability in quantity both play a part in the choice of diamond in lower price-brackets.

Manufacturers like Ortofon then balance the individual qualities of the tip with the rest of the design to yield a level of ability for a given price, and often, too, a particular 'sound' these days. Ortofon's designer is on record as saying that customers now require a touch of 'character' and tailors his designs to provide this. Tip selection must surely play a part here.

I also think that a lot of a tip's performance in high-priced cartridges must come down to careful selection and polish of individual samples and the execution of the design, rather than just the bare statistics of the profile used. These usually describe an 'ideal' sample in any case!

Mark

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Topic - What is behind the revival of the Shibata profile?? - flood2 12:58:40 11/20/14 (16)

RE: What is behind the revival of the Shibata profile?? - markinuk 12:09:31 11/21/14 (2)

Replicant is used on SPU Royal GM II, - Bill Musgrave 08:21:38 11/22/14 (0)

RE: What is behind the revival of the Shibata profile?? - flood2 12:45:39 11/21/14 (0)

RE: What is behind the revival of the Shibata profile?? - middleground 09:49:34 11/21/14 (0)

If the Shibata were so inferior... - Doug G. 00:05:21 11/21/14 (6)

RE: If the Shibata were so inferior... - flood2 01:51:36 11/21/14 (5)

RE: If the Shibata were so inferior... - John Elison 08:36:25 11/21/14 (4)

RE: If the Shibata were so inferior... - neobop 12:38:35 11/21/14 (2)

RE: If the Shibata were so inferior... - flood2 13:50:46 11/21/14 (1)

I would bet that it is cost driven too - richardl 12:57:22 11/24/14 (0)

RE: If the Shibata were so inferior... - flood2 12:37:06 11/21/14 (0)

RE: What is behind the revival of the Shibata profile?? - tketcham 17:04:08 11/20/14 (3)

RE: What is behind the revival of the Shibata profile?? - flood2 12:46:30 11/21/14 (2)

RE: What is behind the revival of the Shibata profile?? - neobop 13:38:38 11/21/14 (1)

Thanks! - flood2 15:15:10 11/21/14 (0)

RE: What is behind the revival of the Shibata profile?? - unclestu 15:54:34 11/20/14 (0)

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RE: What is behind the revival of the Shibata profile?? - markinuk 12:09:31 11/21/14 (2)

Replicant is used on SPU Royal GM II, - Bill Musgrave 08:21:38 11/22/14 (0)

RE: What is behind the revival of the Shibata profile?? - flood2 12:45:39 11/21/14 (0)

RE: What is behind the revival of the Shibata profile??

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