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RE: Where to Custom Cryo in 2014 ????

Posted by stehno (M) on September 17, 2014 at 00:38:23

In Reply to: RE: Where to Custom Cryo in 2014 ???? posted by alan m. kafton on September 16, 2014 at 23:20:45:

Thanks for sharing, Alan.

Yes, it does seem that Cryo Intern'l may have a method of driving temps down to LN2 boiling point via the vapor / gas methodology. I'm guessing that's the main thing.

However, knowing what little I think I know now between the 2 methods, I'd definitely prefer to stick with the total immersion method for 2 reasons:

1. Like an over without convection or say a hot air furnace, it's entirely possible and probable that the thermostat may register the desired temperature, but only at that one point in space while the temp throughout the remainder of space can fluctuate greatly and thus compromise the treatment. Hence, it would seem that complete immersion eliminates this as a potential problem.

2. The fact that you admit to receiving extra gains from a 2nd vapor / gas treatment (like I have in time past) it would also seem to be an admission that the product in question is not reaching the LN2's boiling poiont at least in spots. And since you also have been told that a 2nd immersion treatment is unnecessary, that also would seem to substantiate my specualation that even though Cryo Int'l may perform a superior vapar / gas treatment to other vapor treatments, it sounds as though it still may be inferior to the complete immersion treatment.

Now I have no dog in this fight and I suspect neither do you. But if you're convinced of cryo-treating being a necessity for high-end audio and it seems as though you are, why not send a favorite pair of your ic's and sc's to Jena Labs for the full monty to see for yourself what if any added benefits may be had.

If per chance the Cryo Intn'l method is slightly inferior and you try the full immersion treatment, besides the added detail and overall musicality, there is yet another characteristic that develops that is not only undeniable but also pretty incredible.

BTW, last year I discovered that if has a pair of ic's cryo'ed via immersion (and perhaps vapor too) but not a pair of sc's or vice versa, the untreated pair will act as a very serious performance bottleneck for the cryo'ed pair of cables so that sonic gains appear minimal. At least it was in my case as I was swapping around a few of my newly cryo'ed ic's during their burn in process while the sc's still hadn't reached maturity.

Anyway, it made sense to me but I had no idea just how significant a bottleneck the untreated pair would create.

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