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In Reply to: How about we DON'T rant, call anyone names, or generate badwill. How 'bout... posted by jeffreybehr on January 26, 2006 at 15:23:05:
Dealing with your points:1- I see no reason for why every change to a system should necessarily (ie absolutely must under every condition) produce a difference in sound. If that's true, I think it is contingently true and probably unproveable. I think a lot more changes than many people think will produce a difference, but I withold belief that absolutely any and every change will.
2- complete agreement.
3- complete agreement about the existence and extent of individual differences, but I see no reason to assume that 'golden eared audiophiles' are hearing what they describe unless you've got some evidence that shows that the hearing abilities of golden eared audiophiles are significantly better than those of the general population. Even then, we've got the problem of determining when a claim is being made by golden eared audiophile and when it's being made by an audiophile without golden ears or by someone else.
4- what makes a "real back-and-forth test" the paradigm for testing, and what do you mean by that? Also, you do need to accept that some first impressions are actually correct and some differences are large enough to be obviously apparent. While one does need to exercise caution about claims like "'I put this in my system and WOW WHAT A DIFFERENCE'!", it's also true that one can do back-and-forth comparisons and convince oneself that there is a difference when there isn't. Neither approach guarantees correctness and both yield some correct and some incorrect results.
5- You say "WAY too often I read read things like 'knocked my socks off'…" but what necessarily makes that inaccurate? What if the writer was actually surprised by what they thought was a great difference? Subjective perceptions of difference don't always accord in scale with objective measures, and the same thing can have a different impact on different people. Comments like that aren't about people reporting what they heard but about how much it affected them and should be taken as just that. I tend to assume that they're accurate unless I have proof that the person is lying, but I see no reason to assume that everyone else will have the same reaction.
I think you're right with some of your views and wrong with some others, You will probably think the same about me.
David Aiken
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