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Re: Concepts, challenges and new concepts

You didn't mention what you found to be the best mic arrangement! I would guess that it was the 7" (human head) spacing/arrangement, but that's a pure guess. I would also guess that you'd find a different optimum arrangement if you were recording for headphone playback rather than loudspeaker playback. While I have a strong interest in recording, I have little experience.

We may have to agree to disagree on the bathtub analogy, and that would be OK. I will continue the debate in the meantime, however, since I'm still convinced the bathtub analogy doesn't work (and I like debating).

I think it's important to note that I'm not discerning between an effective drain and any drain at all. The question here is drain or no drain, not the quality of any drain that exists.

If you want to convice me the bathtub analogy is valid, you'd need to start by explaining how fluid (particle) movement relates to wave propogation. I don't feel that it relates well at all in this context.

"I think the tub analogy does work because nothing is "driving" the contents of one tub (let's assume a horizontal pipe between tubs) to the other.

Right reasoning, wrong conclusion. It is because there is no horizontal force (energy) acting on the water that your horizontal pipe is not a drain of any type. I don't see at all how this would relate to a stereo rack, where there is energy input in the form of vibration. There is nothing analagous in the specified tub system to the vibrational energy input of a typical stereo system.

"Since nothing is being "gradually or completely" drawn off and nothing is gradually disappearing or being exhausted or depleted...."

I would have to say that this statement is false, and you've not supplied any information supporting the statement. I refer back to my claim that if any coupling at all exists between two objects, and vibration is generated within one of those objects, some of that generated vibration will enter the second object, and of the portion of vibration that enters the second object, less than 100% of it will return to the first object. This is distinctly different than what happens if the first object were to be coupled to nothing, and happens to fit your stated definition of the word drain (draw off gradually). If no coupling were present between the two objects, 100% of the vibrational energy would need to be dissipated within the first object itself, whereas with coupling, *some portion* of the first object's vibrational energy travels elsewhere never to return again.

Cheers,
Pete


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