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Far as I'm aware I'm still banned on Cable Asylum so can't respond to this post there. Sorry.From http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/cables/messages/94235.html
Flash: Just this week, my associate (tech) brought in his 'best' audio connecting cable. He got it from the discount table at The Good Guys (electronic outlet) for about $35. Made by Monster, looks really nice. He asked me to test it for 'distortion'.
In a word, it sucks! Made my day, and I bought the cable from him, in order to test it further. Worse than RS or any cable SE sent me. Stereo cable and both channels measure a high degree of higher order distortion. Go figure!What John fails to mention is that the distortion he's measuring ISN'T being produced by the cables he's measuring.
This was addressed some months ago when I sent an identical set of cables to both John and Bruno Putzeys, who duplicated John's measurements using an Audio Precision System Two Cascade. The System Two Cascade was able to measure better than 20dB below where John's measurements bottom out (to -145dB below the fundamental) and there was no sign whatsoever of the high order harmonic components John claims to be measuring.
It's perhaps worth noting that John's measurement system centers around a 28 year old ST-1700B distortion analyzer, which even 28 years ago was a second-rate, less expensive alternative to ST's top of the line analyzer of the time.
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Topic - Cable distortion - Steve Eddy 22:52:18 06/18/04 (65)
- Bad Science - Jon Risch 10:35:52 06/21/04 (47)
- Re: Bad Science - john curl 15:37:54 06/21/04 (34)
- Re: Bad Science - Steve Eddy 16:09:54 06/21/04 (33)
- Re: Bad Science - john curl 19:04:59 06/21/04 (32)
- Re: Bad Science - Steve Eddy 20:15:15 06/21/04 (31)
- Re: Bad Science - john curl 20:44:59 06/21/04 (30)
- Re: Bad Science - Steve Eddy 21:11:24 06/21/04 (29)
- Re: Bad Science - john curl 23:44:25 06/21/04 (28)
- Re: Bad Science - Steve Eddy 10:17:19 06/22/04 (1)
- Hi John - jneutron 07:08:20 06/22/04 (25)
- Re: Hi John - Steve Eddy 10:34:09 06/22/04 (8)
- Re: Hi John - jneutron 11:34:10 06/22/04 (7)
- Re: Hi John - Steve Eddy 09:28:03 06/23/04 (6)
- Re: Hi John - jneutron 10:34:41 06/23/04 (5)
- Re: Hi John - john curl 15:24:20 06/23/04 (4)
- Re: Hi John - jneutron 05:55:56 06/24/04 (3)
- Re: Hi John - john curl 09:43:24 06/24/04 (2)
- Re: Hi John - jneutron 10:06:57 06/24/04 (1)
- Agreed - Sean 22:14:30 06/25/04 (0)
- Re: Hi John - Dan Banquer 08:54:06 06/22/04 (15)
- Re: Hi John - jneutron 09:13:02 06/22/04 (14)
- Re: Hi John - john curl 10:34:09 06/22/04 (13)
- Re: Hi John - jneutron 11:30:27 06/22/04 (0)
- Re: Hi John - Steve Eddy 10:39:41 06/22/04 (11)
- Re: Hi John - Dan Banquer 11:33:49 06/22/04 (10)
- Re: Hi John - Steve Eddy 09:35:49 06/23/04 (9)
- Re: Hi Steve - Dan Banquer 13:46:05 06/23/04 (8)
- Re: Hi Steve - Steve Eddy 20:37:54 06/23/04 (7)
- Re: Hi Steve - Ted Smith 12:27:49 06/24/04 (4)
- Re: Hi Steve - Steve Eddy 13:42:33 06/24/04 (3)
- They use Novacaine to pull teeth or do root canal - GTF 14:49:37 06/29/04 (0)
- Re: Hi Steve - Ted Smith 16:13:52 06/24/04 (1)
- Re: Hi Steve - Steve Eddy 18:15:50 06/24/04 (0)
- Re: Hi Steve - Dan Banquer 03:05:16 06/24/04 (0)
- And let me guess...this is your dentist... - slope 22:42:36 06/23/04 (0)
- Re: Bad Science - Granholm 13:39:47 06/21/04 (0)
- Re: Bad Science - Steve Eddy 12:56:48 06/21/04 (0)
- Re: Bad Science - Dan Banquer 11:05:19 06/21/04 (9)
- Re: Bad Science - john curl 11:14:36 06/21/04 (8)
- Re: Bad Science - Dan Banquer 11:48:10 06/21/04 (7)
- Re: Bad Science - john curl 12:13:02 06/21/04 (6)
- Hi John - jneutron 12:55:53 06/21/04 (2)
- Re: Hi John - john curl 13:40:42 06/21/04 (1)
- Re: Hi John - jneutron 13:44:58 06/21/04 (0)
- Re: Bad Science - Dan Banquer 12:27:04 06/21/04 (2)
- Re: Bad Science - john curl 13:41:52 06/21/04 (1)
- Re: Bad Science - Dan Banquer 15:55:19 06/21/04 (0)
- Re: Cable distortion - SysInfo 14:04:17 06/19/04 (6)
- Re: Cable distortion - john curl 17:20:22 06/19/04 (5)
- Re: Cable distortion - Steve Eddy 17:30:30 06/19/04 (4)
- As mentioned over in the Cable Asylum... - Sean 21:28:03 06/20/04 (3)
- Re: As mentioned over in the Cable Asylum... - Steve Eddy 23:21:44 06/20/04 (2)
- Re: As mentioned over in the Cable Asylum... - john curl 00:13:17 06/21/04 (1)
- Re: As mentioned over in the Cable Asylum... - Magnetar 21:30:19 06/22/04 (0)
- Did he bother to connect the cable to a stereo? - pburant 08:02:59 06/19/04 (9)
- Re: Did he bother to connect the cable to a stereo? - john curl 08:59:23 06/19/04 (8)
- Re: Did he bother to connect the cable to a stereo? - Steve Eddy 10:08:30 06/19/04 (4)
- Re: Did he bother to connect the cable to a stereo? - john curl 10:56:17 06/19/04 (3)
- Re: Did he bother to connect the cable to a stereo? - Steve Eddy 11:14:08 06/19/04 (2)
- Re: Did he bother to connect the cable to a stereo? - john curl 11:52:56 06/19/04 (1)
- Re: Did he bother to connect the cable to a stereo? - Steve Eddy 12:10:56 06/19/04 (0)
- Can you comment on... - Russ57 09:35:29 06/19/04 (2)
- Re: Can you comment on... - Steve Eddy 10:17:00 06/19/04 (0)
- Re: Can you comment on... - john curl 09:51:25 06/19/04 (0)