I want to add....

Posted by Winston Smith (A) on October 14, 2015 at 03:47:39

In Reply to: RE: Cryo Treated posted by TubeAcolyte on October 13, 2015 at 21:37:59:

... to my response posted a while ago, that I completely concur about meticulous testing and matching to both weed out crappy performers, and to balance the paired tubes' outputs for the most pin-point, realistic imaging possible. NOTHING can replace that, ever. We agree on that. Poorly matched and tested tubes will usually yield shitty sound. Not always, but usually. And it is SOUND we are after here, not numbers on a tester, ultimately.

And as for business versus sonics, who cares? The OP asked a specific question about SOUND which I answered. Yours goes off track completely. Marketing? Who cares about how to market tubes? If the OP asked, "How do I maximize my profits from selling tubes....", then cool, your post is spot on. Otherwise, don't twist things way out of context. It's about SOUND QUALITY, and what I HEARD comparing identical tubes, one set cryo'ed, one not, AND I was very skeptical going in. And I heard a positive difference in BOTH tube sets tested. Get over it.

Anybody who completely relies on someone else's data without testing it in their own system at least once to verify by critical listening what is being stated as a sonic fact, is practicing audio religion, not science. And if you think such bench 'testing' will ever replace the human ear for the finest determinations, well, you are simply out to lunch, sorry to say. Do you listen with your 'scope'? (Maybe you do.) It's what you hear, not what you measure, that really counts in the final analysis.

But at least we agree on something, and common ground is always good. Let's stay in that territory.

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Topic - Cryo Treated - waterfall 21:51:17 10/11/15 (27)

Yes, I have done exactly that experiment.... - Winston Smith 16:56:15 10/13/15 (4)

Darn you, Winston ... - Sondek 18:03:43 10/13/15 (3)

They are VERY nice...... - Winston Smith 20:48:15 10/13/15 (2)

RE: They are VERY nice...... - Sondek 06:34:07 10/14/15 (1)

Hope those Acoustats turn out great. A superb speaker. Keep us posted, tube-wise. Cheers! (Nt.) - Winston Smith 17:52:44 10/14/15 (0)

My morning waffles were cryo treated and they taste good? - airtime 15:31:07 10/12/15 (0)

RE: Cryo Treated - waterfall 09:29:47 10/12/15 (0)

RE: Cryo Treated - waterfall 08:54:55 10/12/15 (0)

RE: Cryo Treated - TubeAcolyte 23:56:46 10/11/15 (18)

RE: Cryo Treated - waterfall 10:28:10 10/13/15 (12)

RE: Cryo Treated - TubeAcolyte 21:37:59 10/13/15 (10)

: DIY cryogenics - DAK 18:16:14 10/17/15 (0)

I want to add.... - Winston Smith 03:47:39 10/14/15 (4)

RE: I want to add.... - TubeAcolyte 09:33:46 10/14/15 (3)

Sorry.... - Winston Smith 17:55:28 10/14/15 (2)

RE: Sorry.... - cpotl 17:46:37 10/17/15 (0)

RE: Sorry.... - TubeAcolyte 21:30:18 10/14/15 (0)

Power cords all sound the same, too....... - Winston Smith 23:53:52 10/13/15 (3)

RE: Power cords all sound the same, too....... - waterfall 02:30:56 10/14/15 (2)

If you decide to try.... - Winston Smith 03:15:21 10/14/15 (1)

RE: If you decide to try.... - waterfall 11:04:54 10/14/15 (0)

RE: Cryo Treated - Sondek 11:40:01 10/13/15 (0)

RE: Cryo Treated - Sondek 06:12:19 10/12/15 (4)

RE: Cryo Treated - TubeAcolyte 07:17:24 10/12/15 (3)

RE: Cryo Treated - Sondek 07:26:42 10/12/15 (2)

RE: Cryo Treated - tubular.well 05:24:35 10/17/15 (1)

RE: Cryo Treated - TubeAcolyte 07:50:09 10/17/15 (0)

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I want to add.... - Winston Smith 03:47:39 10/14/15 (4)

RE: I want to add.... - TubeAcolyte 09:33:46 10/14/15 (3)

Sorry.... - Winston Smith 17:55:28 10/14/15 (2)

RE: Sorry.... - cpotl 17:46:37 10/17/15 (0)

RE: Sorry.... - TubeAcolyte 21:30:18 10/14/15 (0)

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