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In Reply to: Looking for 12au7 for my cary SLP94 posted by nuklp on September 28, 2004 at 11:16:39:
nuklp,I don't know the Cary so comments are a bit general.
I would second both of JamesV's suggestions. The Siemens E82CC was sold under several labels. I'm assuming he means the older triple mica Siemens & Halske and was sold under several designations. There were Siemens 5814As but also these could be Philips SQ 5814As, Siemens ECC802S, or Valvo E82CC. There is a later Siemens E82CC- sold also as Valvo E82CC and these are two mica tubes- not of the same quality of the triple mica ones- but still quite nice. The Siemens is what I would call a "fast" tube" very dynamic and lively, somewhat forward.
The Amperex 7316 is a tube I've only heard once- but that was enough- it really is good! I'm told that there are several versions of the 7316 and the earlier ones are nicer.
The Amperex Bugle Boy ECC82 is a tube that seems to work well everywhere I try it- it does everything well! Don't discount too ECC82s labelled by HP as these are usually Amperex made and to me- indistinguishable from the Bugle Boys- and will be half the price. I have several 12AU7s from Philips- Valvos especially, and I can not tell these tubes apart from Bugle Boys in construction.
I'm a big fan of the 5814A and recently enjoyed trying out a pair of 1956 CBS- black plate, louvered stirrup getter- fantastic really.
One model you mentined is the RCA "cleartop". I ended up with (11!) of these and I like these very much in my old McIntosh stuff where the slightly bright nature livens things up a bit. This is a characteristic of the Siemens 5814A also- punchy and fast. However, this may or may not be a good combination with the Cary.
I have several Telefunkens in vintage gear- McIntosh, Fisher and Scott and these are fine, and these are very neutral, but I seem to yearn for a little more agressiveness and these spots will become Siemens or Amperex.
Without knowing the Cary, I would say you couldn't go wrong with a good Philips made ECC82 or the special Amperex 7316- if you can find them! if you wna tto tubne the sound a little "otter", then the Siemens 5814A or the RCAs.
Sorry, nit enough experience with Mullard to comment, but I hear the old long plate 50's ones are very nice.
Cheers,
Bambi B
12AU7s AT HOME:
Use 5: 1, 2, 2
Philips SQ/ Siemens 5814A -3 mica- NOS
Brimar cleartop- NOS
Sylvania JHS 12AU7WA- 6189- NOS 66
HP/ Amperex-Holland- NOS
HP/ RCA- cleartop- NOS
RCA- 5814A- black plate 2 mica- NOS
RCA/Textronix matched pairs cleartop NOS
Valvo/ Philips ECC82- dimpled disc-Holland -NOS
Valvo/ Siemens E82CC- NOS < this is the later two mica
CBS 5814A- JHS blk plate- stirrup gtr- NOS 56
RCA cleartop- USED
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- Re: Looking for 12au7 for my cary SLP94 - Bambi B 16:12:40 09/28/04 (8)
- Re: Looking for 12au7 for my cary SLP94 - nuklp 07:30:17 09/29/04 (1)
- Re: Looking for 12au7 for my cary SLP94 - Bambi B 11:46:55 09/29/04 (0)
- In my Cary preamp..... - claud 04:54:18 09/29/04 (5)
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- The Two reasons for rarity - Bambi B 15:49:38 09/30/04 (1)
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- Almost forgot... - claud 05:00:13 09/29/04 (0)