Home Speaker Asylum

General speaker questions for audio and home theater.

Re: The 2.4's are great

I was writing about the 2.4's.

I bought the Microstar and replaced an Energy 10 because the bass in the 2.3's (my original pair) needed something heavier.

The Microstar is a great home theater sub and mates well with the 2.4's. I actually was going to sell it after I bought my M&K 5000 because I wanted a sub that I would call more musical (I did not know about the Vandersteens at that point).

But there were times when the Microstar actually gave me more of a visceral feel. Saving Private Ryan is an example. There were scenes in there you needed to feel – like the explosions. While the M&K did good and puts out bass that has finesse, the Microstar is a brute. Having said that, the Microstar was actually disappointing by itself in the Haunting where you needed extremely deep bass but clarity as well. So I decided to keep both of them. I have the Microstar’s crossover set all the way at the bottom at 50, and have it in a corner to give a boost to my M&K.

With regard to the Vandersteens - that is a different conversation. It seems to me that the pairs were designed to accomplish different things.

While the Microstar becomes another component in a home theater system, the Vandersteens, in an abstract way, become part of your main speakers.

The Vandersteen subs have an external crossover, which sits between your preamp and amp and rolls off bass starting at 100 Hz. The crossover point is around 80 Hz. At the same time you also attach a cable from your amp to the subs. The amp doesn't drive the sub; the sub samples the signal so its onboard amp knows how much to pump out. The Vandersteens are very fast and because of this they are great for music. They are a system kind of a deal where you are not supposed to hear the sub, you are supposed to listen to the music, if you know what I mean. When I first put them in, I thought they were broken because you don't hear them directly. After they break in (at least 100 hours) the music your system presents is different.

The really great thing about the Vandersteens is that now I don't need bass management anymore. I can listen to two channel SACD's, and my speakers, 2.3's & 2wq's, as a unit, go from 20kHz to 18Hz. I don't have to worry about how I am going to get my subwoofer in the mix because sub and main speaker are now truly mated.

When I watch movies now, the benefits go there too, because with full range mains, the sound is more dynamic. I now have the LFE channel only going to the subs as before I had them go to the main speakers as well.


Mike


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