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In Reply to: Oh boy, more posted by Dave_K on July 16, 2015 at 18:24:11:
Don't move the goalposts. We're talking CABLES. Cables are pre-filter.
Voltage does not get attenuated pre-filter. Only post filter.
Current is attenuated in the whole branch, i.e., in the individual cables - with one feeding each filter.Let's make it even simpler.
In a pair of bi-wire cables, the current to the low pass filter is only low pass current. The current to the high-pass filter is only high-pass current.
The sum of both currents electrically would be equal to the highpass current and the lowpass current combined, which is precisely what you see at the amplifier terminals IF only one amp is used.
If two amps are used, in a passive bi-wire configuration, each amp (like each cable) sees respective filter current only. (High sees high, low sees low).
Cheers,
Presto
Edits: 07/17/15
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- RE: Need some bi-wire counseling and opinions - hahax@verizon.net 15:38:23 07/17/15 (3)
- RE: Need some bi-wire counseling and opinions - JaroTheWise 19:32:31 07/17/15 (2)
- High and low frequencies getting confused. - jsm 12:32:26 07/22/15 (1)
- RE: High and low frequencies getting confused. - JaroTheWise 14:46:23 07/22/15 (0)
- bi-wiring is at best a placebo - 3db 04:49:29 07/17/15 (34)
- No, there is science behind bi-wiring - Jon Risch 20:54:35 07/22/15 (23)
- This proof you call is fraught with technical errors - 3db 09:39:24 07/24/15 (1)
- RE: No it is not. - Jon Risch 20:48:01 07/26/15 (0)
- RE: No, there is science behind bi-wiring - 3db 05:42:04 07/24/15 (17)
- RE: No, there is science behind bi-wiring - genungo 07:27:14 07/24/15 (16)
- RE: No, there is science behind bi-wiring - 3db 09:33:06 07/24/15 (12)
- RE: No, there is science behind bi-wiring - Jon Risch 19:29:20 07/26/15 (11)
- RE: No, there is science behind bi-wiring - 3db 10:44:02 07/29/15 (10)
- RE: No, there is science behind bi-wiring - Jon Risch 18:59:01 07/29/15 (9)
- RE: No, there is science behind bi-wiring - 3db 05:37:12 07/30/15 (8)
- Feel sorry for you - Jon Risch 20:12:16 07/30/15 (2)
- You're pathetic - 3db 05:05:27 07/31/15 (1)
- A pot calls a kettle black - Craiger56 07:09:31 07/31/15 (0)
- RE: No, there is science behind bi-wiring - Dave_K 14:32:24 07/30/15 (4)
- RE: No, there is science behind bi-wiring - 3db 05:11:15 07/31/15 (3)
- RE: No, there is science behind bi-wiring - Dave_K 08:15:55 07/31/15 (2)
- so what?? - 3db 09:15:01 07/31/15 (1)
- RE: so what?? - Dave_K 07:19:19 08/01/15 (0)
- RE: No, there is science behind bi-wiring - 3db 09:14:18 07/24/15 (2)
- RE: No, there is science behind bi-wiring - Jon Risch 20:38:54 07/26/15 (0)
- RE: "When was the article written?" - genungo 10:15:23 07/24/15 (0)
- RE: No, there is science behind bi-wiring - jkaschyk 07:29:05 07/23/15 (2)
- RE: No, there is science behind bi-wiring - Jon Risch 19:10:03 07/26/15 (1)
- RE: No, there is science behind bi-wiring - jkaschyk 19:11:54 07/26/15 (0)
- RE: bi-wiring is at best a placebo - JaroTheWise 19:26:48 07/17/15 (1)
- Based on what you are telling me - 3db 08:03:43 07/20/15 (0)
- Bi-wiring is, at worst, a placebo. - Kal Rubinson 07:38:15 07/17/15 (4)
- You will no soon enough - 3db 09:37:10 07/17/15 (3)
- RE: You will no soon enough - Pat D 16:26:16 07/19/15 (1)
- RE: You will no soon enough - 3db 08:04:54 07/20/15 (0)
- And you will know whether it was worth the bother. (NT) - Kal Rubinson 20:04:11 07/17/15 (0)
- RE: "at best a placebo" - genungo 06:34:37 07/17/15 (2)
- RE: "at best a placebo" - 3db 06:46:39 07/17/15 (1)
- RE: "It's a state of mind not a reality" - genungo 07:01:08 07/17/15 (0)
- try biamping... - Tom Schuman 04:13:52 07/17/15 (1)
- RE: try biamping... - JaroTheWise 19:21:06 07/17/15 (0)
- " and this was after I also substituted replacement jumpers." - Cut-Throat 05:51:32 07/15/15 (1)
- RE: " and this was after I also substituted replacement jumpers." - JaroTheWise 13:14:20 07/15/15 (0)
- RE: Need some bi-wire counseling and opinions - Bill the K 17:19:31 07/14/15 (9)
- Richard Vanderseteen does not sell speaker wire - Drew769 13:03:05 07/21/15 (0)
- Wrong - kavakidd 00:08:14 07/15/15 (1)
- I concur. (nt - Self-Inflicted 12:23:49 07/15/15 (0)
- RE: Need some bi-wire counseling and opinions - JaroTheWise 17:55:14 07/14/15 (5)
- With supplied jumpers, there are no special needs. (NT) - Kal Rubinson 12:19:18 07/19/15 (4)
- RE: With supplied jumpers, there are no special needs. (NT) - JaroTheWise 21:49:23 07/19/15 (3)
- Sure. - Kal Rubinson 06:28:21 07/20/15 (2)
- RE: Sure. - JaroTheWise 20:24:58 07/20/15 (1)
- Complicit, indeed. - Kal Rubinson 17:42:46 07/21/15 (0)
- Mix and match - Presto 10:56:55 07/14/15 (5)
- RE: Mix and match - JaroTheWise 11:49:48 07/14/15 (4)
- RE: Mix and match - Presto 22:49:37 07/14/15 (3)
- RE: Mix and match - JaroTheWise 00:53:28 07/15/15 (2)
- RE: Mix and match - Presto 09:33:06 07/16/15 (1)
- RE: Mix and match - JaroTheWise 23:27:15 07/16/15 (0)
- RE: Need some bi-wire counseling and opinions - mkuller 09:58:38 07/14/15 (1)
- RE: Need some bi-wire counseling and opinions - JaroTheWise 11:56:45 07/14/15 (0)
- RE: Need some bi-wire counseling and opinions - Pat D 19:02:54 07/13/15 (7)
- RE: Need some bi-wire counseling and opinions - RGA 16:58:52 07/14/15 (0)
- RE: Need some bi-wire counseling and opinions - Bold Eagle 12:26:29 07/14/15 (2)
- RE: Need some bi-wire counseling and opinions - Pat D 19:31:08 07/14/15 (1)
- RE: Need some bi-wire counseling and opinions - Bold Eagle 20:14:17 07/14/15 (0)
- RE: Need some bi-wire counseling and opinions - Presto 10:52:07 07/14/15 (1)
- RE: Need some bi-wire counseling and opinions - JaroTheWise 12:01:39 07/14/15 (0)
- And with your Paradigm, which supports bi-wiring - what is your PERSONAL experience? - carcass93 06:51:39 07/14/15 (0)
- If you think it's better, then.... - Rod M 18:08:50 07/13/15 (5)
- Apples to apples would be bi-wiring with Audience vs. bi-wiring with the other cable,.... - carcass93 10:32:52 07/14/15 (2)
- RE: Apples to apples would be bi-wiring with Audience vs. bi-wiring with the other cable,.... - Rod M 17:41:47 07/14/15 (1)
- "Copper of correct gauge...." - yeah, they say that. - carcass93 18:20:10 07/14/15 (0)
- RE: If you think it's better, then.... - JaroTheWise 21:14:51 07/13/15 (1)
- RE: If you think it's better, then.... - Mick Wolfe 09:09:29 07/14/15 (0)
- I think Richard Vandersteen got it right - Bill Way 11:02:10 07/13/15 (42)
- RE: I think Richard Vandersteen got it right - Daverz 20:28:48 07/13/15 (40)
- RE: I think Richard Vandersteen got it right - Bill Way 05:12:58 07/14/15 (39)
- RE: I think Richard Vandersteen got it right - Dave_K 14:05:48 07/14/15 (38)
- RE: I think Richard Vandersteen got it right - Presto 12:43:44 07/16/15 (5)
- RE: I think Richard Vandersteen got it right - Dave_K 19:39:49 07/16/15 (4)
- Your own loudspeaker manufacturer recommends bi-wiring - Craiger56 19:44:36 07/18/15 (2)
- I've bi-wired about 50% of the speakers I've owned - Dave_K 16:09:43 07/19/15 (1)
- "content" is not an electrical term - Craiger56 17:54:57 07/19/15 (0)
- RE: I think Richard Vandersteen got it right - Craiger56 00:34:03 07/18/15 (0)
- Your explanation doesn't work - Craiger56 08:15:12 07/15/15 (30)
- Seems like you agree with me - Dave_K 10:58:51 07/15/15 (29)
- RE: Seems like you agree with me - Craiger56 12:26:06 07/15/15 (28)
- RE: Seems like you agree with me - Dave_K 03:53:24 07/16/15 (27)
- You "don't see" - Craiger56 05:56:22 07/16/15 (26)
- Oops mistake my bad - Craiger56 23:33:55 07/17/15 (0)
- You're not making sense - Dave_K 07:04:10 07/16/15 (24)
- Without knowledge it won't make sense - Craiger56 10:22:04 07/16/15 (23)
- RE: Without knowledge it won't make sense - JaroTheWise 21:54:59 07/21/15 (6)
- RE: Without knowledge it won't make sense - Craiger56 09:47:45 07/22/15 (1)
- Yeah, we agree on something :) (nt) - Dave_K 06:36:32 07/24/15 (0)
- RE: Without knowledge it won't make sense - Dave_K 05:13:55 07/22/15 (3)
- RE: Without knowledge it won't make sense - JaroTheWise 14:36:01 07/22/15 (2)
- RV never said the Hall effect was responsible - Dave_K 06:54:40 07/24/15 (1)
- RE: RV never said the Hall effect was responsible - JaroTheWise 14:20:44 07/24/15 (0)
- RE: Without knowledge it won't make sense - Dave_K 11:22:38 07/16/15 (15)
- RE: Without knowledge it won't make sense - Craiger56 17:00:08 07/16/15 (3)
- RE: Without knowledge it won't make sense - Dave_K 17:13:06 07/16/15 (2)
- RE: Without knowledge it won't make sense - Craiger56 21:45:14 07/16/15 (1)
- RE: Without knowledge it won't make sense - Presto 09:54:01 07/17/15 (0)
- RE: Without knowledge it won't make sense - Presto 12:52:06 07/16/15 (10)
- RE: Without knowledge it won't make sense - Presto 22:30:53 07/16/15 (0)
- Oh boy, more - Dave_K 18:24:11 07/16/15 (1)
- RE: Oh boy, more - Presto 22:25:46 07/16/15 (0)
- I mean voltage, more precisely EMF - Dave_K 16:48:39 07/16/15 (6)
- RE: I mean voltage, more precisely EMF - Presto 22:29:50 07/16/15 (5)
- RE: I mean voltage, more precisely EMF - Dave_K 03:45:08 07/20/15 (4)
- RE: I mean voltage, more precisely EMF - Presto 10:03:45 07/20/15 (3)
- RE: I mean voltage, more precisely EMF - Dave_K 17:24:07 07/21/15 (2)
- RE: I mean voltage, more precisely EMF - Presto 08:59:22 07/22/15 (1)
- RE: I mean voltage, more precisely EMF - Dave_K 06:57:16 07/24/15 (0)
- Wow. - genungo 14:36:47 07/14/15 (0)
- RE: I think Richard Vandersteen got it right - JaroTheWise 12:30:53 07/13/15 (0)
- RE: Need some bi-wire counseling and opinions - BCR 17:00:26 07/12/15 (0)
- RE: Need some bi-wire counseling and opinions - BCR 16:49:37 07/12/15 (0)
- From QSC: pro sound manufacurer - unclestu 14:38:14 07/12/15 (0)
- Bi-wire gets you more wire. - genungo 12:41:39 07/12/15 (16)
- Not if you bi-amp too n/t - Awe-d-o-file 17:12:11 07/12/15 (0)
- RE: Bi-wire gets you more wire. - zako 13:10:11 07/12/15 (14)
- Where did they teach you that? - carcass93 14:14:57 07/12/15 (0)
- RE: Bi-wire gets you more wire. - zako 13:12:11 07/12/15 (12)
- "The voice coil wire stays the same" - thanks, Mr. Obvious. - carcass93 14:19:59 07/12/15 (0)
- There's an easy way to test your ears for "bi-wire compatibility"... - genungo 13:23:45 07/12/15 (10)
- RE: There's an easy way to test your ears for "bi-wire compatibility"... - JaroTheWise 13:34:43 07/12/15 (9)
- RE: There's an easy way to test your ears for "bi-wire compatibility"... - genungo 13:48:38 07/12/15 (8)
- Bi-wire Science - Jon Risch 19:18:21 07/12/15 (1)
- Thanks for the outline - genungo 19:35:12 07/12/15 (0)
- I do it and I LIKE it - kavakidd 14:16:42 07/12/15 (5)
- RE: I do it and I LIKE it - genungo 14:26:14 07/12/15 (4)
- Wouldn't that be a short circuit?? - nt - kavakidd 15:11:14 07/12/15 (3)
- RE: Wouldn't that be a short circuit?? - genungo 16:31:28 07/12/15 (2)
- Hope so but - kavakidd 23:56:24 07/12/15 (1)
- RE: Hope so but - genungo 10:54:55 07/13/15 (0)
- RE: Need some bi-wire counseling and opinions - Duster 10:55:24 07/12/15 (2)
- RE: Need some bi-wire counseling and opinions - JaroTheWise 13:29:16 07/12/15 (1)
- RE: Need some bi-wire counseling and opinions - Duster 14:45:33 07/12/15 (0)
- First thing first: ignore naysayers. - carcass93 10:52:07 07/12/15 (1)
- RE: First thing first: ignore naysayers. - JaroTheWise 13:14:53 07/12/15 (0)
- RE: Need some bi-wire counseling and opinions - zako 07:16:37 07/12/15 (9)
- Who said... - Presto 10:48:02 07/14/15 (0)
- Bi wire gets you nothing,,Imaging only comes from good mic placement - 430cruz 09:06:56 07/14/15 (0)
- Imaging can only come from between the ears. - BigguyinATL 15:45:17 07/13/15 (0)
- Horse - kavakidd 23:57:32 07/12/15 (0)
- RE: Need some bi-wire counseling and opinions - Awe-d-o-file 17:17:43 07/12/15 (0)
- RE: Need some bi-wire counseling and opinions - JaroTheWise 13:19:57 07/12/15 (2)
- The Athenas - unclestu 14:41:28 07/12/15 (1)
- RE: The Athenas - JaroTheWise 22:24:31 07/12/15 (0)
- "Bi wire gets you nothing" - wow, that's helpful! Especially after .... - carcass93 10:29:56 07/12/15 (0)
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