In Reply to: RE: I think Richard Vandersteen got it right posted by Bill Way on July 14, 2015 at 05:12:58:
The magnetic field established at right angles to a current flowing in a conductor is the Hall effect.
No it isn't. That's Ampere's Law.But the inverse is also true: a changing magnetic field can cause a current to flow in a conductor.
And that's Faraday's Law. You are right that the two cables in a bi-wire configuration will interact via their magnetic fields. This is normally just called crosstalk and doesn't require the Hall effect. The Hall effect is something different, see the Wikipedia page linked below.
I think RV is making a reference to Faraday's Law and crosstalks, but his explanation doesn't work. First, a time varying magnetic field produced by current flowing in one conductor can induce EMF in another conductor, but it's a moot point in biwiring because both conductors are already being driven with the full range single at the amp. Second, the high pass filter portion of the crossover is blocking low frequency currents from flowing through the tweeter, and it doesn't care if the low frequency EMF is coming from the amp, from cable crosstalk, or from the hair dryer in the next room.
The only frequency range where the low frequency and high frequency networks interact is in the crossover range where the low pass and high pass filter responses overlap. In this frequency range, back-EMF from the woofer is the main source of unwanted EMF affecting the tweeter. In the bi-wire configuration, the back-EMF can be sunk by the amp with less effect on the tweeter output.
Also, in this frequency range, the magnetic interaction between the two biwire cables manifests itself as a change in their combined impedance as seen by the amp.
One other difference between single and bi-wiring is increasing the parallel capacitance of the cable (doubling it if identical cables are used).
So there are at least three basic explanations to explain why biwiring might produce different results: damping of back-EMF, changing the effective impedance in the crossover range, and increasing parallel capacitance.
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Follow Ups
- RE: I think Richard Vandersteen got it right - Dave_K 14:05:48 07/14/15 (38)
- RE: I think Richard Vandersteen got it right - Presto 12:43:44 07/16/15 (5)
- RE: I think Richard Vandersteen got it right - Dave_K 19:39:49 07/16/15 (4)
- Your own loudspeaker manufacturer recommends bi-wiring - Craiger56 19:44:36 07/18/15 (2)
- I've bi-wired about 50% of the speakers I've owned - Dave_K 16:09:43 07/19/15 (1)
- "content" is not an electrical term - Craiger56 17:54:57 07/19/15 (0)
- RE: I think Richard Vandersteen got it right - Craiger56 00:34:03 07/18/15 (0)
- Your explanation doesn't work - Craiger56 08:15:12 07/15/15 (30)
- Seems like you agree with me - Dave_K 10:58:51 07/15/15 (29)
- RE: Seems like you agree with me - Craiger56 12:26:06 07/15/15 (28)
- RE: Seems like you agree with me - Dave_K 03:53:24 07/16/15 (27)
- You "don't see" - Craiger56 05:56:22 07/16/15 (26)
- Oops mistake my bad - Craiger56 23:33:55 07/17/15 (0)
- You're not making sense - Dave_K 07:04:10 07/16/15 (24)
- Without knowledge it won't make sense - Craiger56 10:22:04 07/16/15 (23)
- RE: Without knowledge it won't make sense - JaroTheWise 21:54:59 07/21/15 (6)
- RE: Without knowledge it won't make sense - Craiger56 09:47:45 07/22/15 (1)
- Yeah, we agree on something :) (nt) - Dave_K 06:36:32 07/24/15 (0)
- RE: Without knowledge it won't make sense - Dave_K 05:13:55 07/22/15 (3)
- RE: Without knowledge it won't make sense - JaroTheWise 14:36:01 07/22/15 (2)
- RV never said the Hall effect was responsible - Dave_K 06:54:40 07/24/15 (1)
- RE: RV never said the Hall effect was responsible - JaroTheWise 14:20:44 07/24/15 (0)
- RE: Without knowledge it won't make sense - Dave_K 11:22:38 07/16/15 (15)
- RE: Without knowledge it won't make sense - Craiger56 17:00:08 07/16/15 (3)
- RE: Without knowledge it won't make sense - Dave_K 17:13:06 07/16/15 (2)
- RE: Without knowledge it won't make sense - Craiger56 21:45:14 07/16/15 (1)
- RE: Without knowledge it won't make sense - Presto 09:54:01 07/17/15 (0)
- RE: Without knowledge it won't make sense - Presto 12:52:06 07/16/15 (10)
- RE: Without knowledge it won't make sense - Presto 22:30:53 07/16/15 (0)
- Oh boy, more - Dave_K 18:24:11 07/16/15 (1)
- RE: Oh boy, more - Presto 22:25:46 07/16/15 (0)
- I mean voltage, more precisely EMF - Dave_K 16:48:39 07/16/15 (6)
- RE: I mean voltage, more precisely EMF - Presto 22:29:50 07/16/15 (5)
- RE: I mean voltage, more precisely EMF - Dave_K 03:45:08 07/20/15 (4)
- RE: I mean voltage, more precisely EMF - Presto 10:03:45 07/20/15 (3)
- RE: I mean voltage, more precisely EMF - Dave_K 17:24:07 07/21/15 (2)
- RE: I mean voltage, more precisely EMF - Presto 08:59:22 07/22/15 (1)
- RE: I mean voltage, more precisely EMF - Dave_K 06:57:16 07/24/15 (0)
- Wow. - genungo 14:36:47 07/14/15 (0)