In Reply to: Can a simple crossover (cap/inductor) achieve time alignment without a stepped baffle? posted by jupiterboy on July 18, 2014 at 06:29:34:
First, you do need to align acoustic centers. This is done with sloped baffles, stepped baffles or delays if the crossover is digital (DSP).
Second, the simple "1st order electric" crossover you've described - this is a common misconception. The crossover needed for a true 1st order ACOUSTIC response is not going to be the same crossover for a simple 1st order ELECTRICAL transfer function (cap and coil). This is because with shallow 1st order slopes, drivers have natural frequency and phase variations that occur well past the intended crossover points. (In other words, the acoustic response - amplitude and phase - of a given driver is in play at least 2 octaves beyond the crossover point).
If you look at the crossover of a true 1st order acoustic design it will be far more complex than a single cap and single inductor. This is because amplitude and impedance equalization circuits are required to get the drivers acoustically "flat" enough to meet the 1st order acoustic response.
This means the designer needs drivers with specialized characteristics that suit a 1st order acoustic design. A big one, for example, is power handling of the tweeter in such a design.
Cheers,
Presto
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- RE: Can a simple crossover (cap/inductor) achieve time alignment without a stepped baffle? - Presto 09:11:18 07/18/14 (16)
- RE: Can a simple crossover (cap/inductor) achieve time alignment without a stepped baffle? - kenderesster 23:41:17 07/21/14 (0)
- RE: Can a simple crossover (cap/inductor) achieve time alignment without a stepped baffle? - jupiterboy 09:31:13 07/18/14 (14)
- RE: Can a simple crossover (cap/inductor) achieve time alignment without a stepped baffle? - Tom Schuman 08:43:09 07/20/14 (4)
- RE: Can a simple crossover (cap/inductor) achieve time alignment without a stepped baffle? - jupiterboy 09:28:48 07/20/14 (3)
- RE: Can a simple crossover (cap/inductor) achieve time alignment without a stepped baffle? - dlp4341 21:33:36 07/21/14 (2)
- Surely with a 1st order slopes you have to have the bass units forward of the mid/tweeter? - Timbo in Oz 21:08:55 07/23/14 (1)
- RE: Surely with a 1st order slopes you have to have the bass units forward of the mid/tweeter? - dlp4341 22:29:27 07/23/14 (0)
- The web blurb doesn't say they are time aligned... - krisjan 11:05:31 07/18/14 (8)
- RE: The web blurb doesn't say they are time aligned... - jupiterboy 11:33:02 07/18/14 (7)
- If you wish to replace your Vandys... - rlw 08:14:18 07/20/14 (0)
- RE: The web blurb doesn't say they are time aligned... - PeterZ 11:12:20 07/19/14 (3)
- "Most" designs do NOT "flip the polarity of the tweeter to gain better coherence" - Brian H P 10:49:38 07/22/14 (0)
- RE: The web blurb doesn't say they are time aligned... - jupiterboy 12:09:54 07/19/14 (1)
- RE: The web blurb doesn't say they are time aligned... - hahax@verizon.net 20:41:11 07/19/14 (0)
- RE: The web blurb doesn't say they are time aligned... - Presto 12:23:07 07/18/14 (1)
- RE: The web blurb doesn't say they are time aligned... - jupiterboy 12:54:41 07/18/14 (0)