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RE: Question for Gallo Ref 3 Owners

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Posted by nickgva on December 21, 2009 at 20:45:56

In Reply to: Question for Gallo Ref 3 Owners posted by nickgva on December 20, 2009 at 20:06:15:

Thanks for all the comments.
Let me clarify - I am not attacking these speakers, I love them for what they do well, I fully agree with the comments about vocals, guitar, and violin, horns also sound great on them (particularly trumpet), they are very easy speakers to like. These speakers have a glorious tweeter no doubt about it, but what I am concerned with is the mid-range.

Maybe I stated the question poorly, I am commenting on something very specific that I couldn't hear without doing some back to back compares. For example, I was very happy with how the Ref 3s sounded with guitars and violins and still am with the exception of the "percusive" aspects of it, what I mean is the intial stike on the strings. For guitar an example would be the pick striking the strings, for violin a bow strike. For certain playing styles there is nothing to miss. As I said before this muting is most noticeable for me on hand claps, cymbals, and snares.

Has anyone else done a comparison listening for these aspects?
That is the question I posed, for which I still don't have an answer.
If I had not done this comparison, I would probably be writing the same replies that you folks have, and extolling the virtues of these speakers.

In answer to your questions/suggestions:
Grills - some initial listening was done with them on shortly after purchase, they have stayed off for good since then.
Room - they have been in three different rooms that I have systems in and was very happy with their performance in all three, until I noticed, for lack of a better term, the percussive muting. Since noticed, they have been tried back in one of the previous rooms with the same percussive muting noted. So for now I'm tentatively ruling out the room.
Amp - they have been tried with a "digital" amp, a high powered receiver, and spent most of their time on some extremely capable solid state monoblocks. Since noticing the percusive muting they have been on both the receiver and the monoblocks, but not the digital amp with the same results. I think I can safely rule out lack of power.
Speakers - In room 1 the Ref 3s were compared to two other speakers and in room 2 the Ref 3s were compared to three other speakers, with the same result each time. None of the other speakers are considered to be even forward and certainly none are rip your ears off forward.

This percussive muting went unnoticed without comparing to another speaker, but since I noticed it, I now hear it every time.

Are any of you owners out there willing to compare and tell me what you hear? I think my next step may be to open them up and investigate.

Thanks for the help.

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