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why do manufacturers opt for multiple small woofers rahter than fewer bigger woofers in speakers?

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why do manufacturers today tend to build their floorstanding speakers thinner & thinner and deeper and deeper, they prefer multiple smaller drivers for the bass rather than 1 or 2 bigger drivers? some say multiple smaller drivers have faster bass and do not sound sluggish at all (but in my opinion, i still prefer bigger drivers) , for example : multiple driver configurations (say 3 6.5" woofers) do not sound as good as (say a dual 8" or even 10" or 12") designs. any of you guys agree with me? It drives me crazy , is it because more people do not want the speakers to dominate physically in the room? and that the real industry trend is to make the best possible sound in the smallest possible box? Or is the multiple smaller bass driver really sound better? We might see the day that the only floorstanding speakers we can buy consist of a tall tower of 50" containing 6 5.25" driver for the bass?

please do enlighten me..

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Thanks guys for the opinions, found it interesting, - adkins 07:43:15 05/19/08 (0)
There is extreme low bass, bass, and midbass...you cannot get them all with a single driver IMO - tubesforever 00:00:51 05/05/08 (5)
- You can't get to 100Hz. with a single driver? .... EVERY bass driver can get to 100Hz. ,... or 200Hz. - Richard BassNut Greene 07:56:21 05/14/08 (4)
  - Those without experience should simply diminish Richard.... - tubesforever 23:19:55 05/14/08 (3)
    - You claim bass drivers can't handle 100Hz. = you remain the Forrest Gump of audio - Richard BassNut Greene 09:36:25 05/15/08 (2)
      - Richard get some experience... PLEASE..... - tubesforever 19:46:27 05/16/08 (1)
        
        Only a clueless audiophile like you could claim one needs 2 bass drivers to cover 2 octaves 25 to 100Hz. - Richard BassNut Greene 10:31:41 05/18/08 (0)
RE: why do manufacturers opt for multiple small woofers rahter than fewer bigger woofers in speakers? - Jim in Blacksburg 15:13:48 05/04/08 (0)
RE: why do manufacturers opt for multiple small woofers rahter than fewer bigger woofers in speakers? - robert.gaboury@videotron.ca 08:49:59 05/04/08 (0)
UPS (United Parcel Post).... - mikel 07:47:58 05/04/08 (0)
Simple, they want to stay in business. - Edp 07:05:29 05/04/08 (1)
- RE: Simple, they want to stay in business. - middleground 03:52:42 05/07/08 (0)
Because idiots will pay bigger dollars for crappier multi-driver speakers rather than two drivers done well. n - The Bastard With The Hammer 05:37:47 05/04/08 (2)
- RE: Because idiots will pay bigger dollars for crappier multi-driver speakers rather than two drivers done well. n - akolegov@mtu-net.ru 00:02:16 05/05/08 (1)
  - Thank you! Beatings will continue until morale improves! STS - The Bastard With The Hammer 15:12:03 05/06/08 (0)
RE: why do manufacturers opt for multiple small woofers rahter than fewer bigger woofers in speakers? - Robert C. Lang 19:30:41 05/03/08 (0)
RE: why do manufacturers opt for multiple small woofers rahter than fewer bigger woofers in speakers? - weltersys 17:10:16 05/03/08 (1)
- This Was the Critical Phrase... - Doug Schroeder 18:13:43 05/03/08 (0)
Because Amuricans are getting fatter and fatter, so they want speakers slimmer and slimmer - Richard BassNut Greene 13:08:02 05/03/08 (50)
- RE: Because Amuricans are getting fatter and fatter, so they want speakers slimmer and slimmer - morricab 05:52:06 05/09/08 (0)
- Wow where do you get this from? - tubesforever 00:13:47 05/05/08 (41)
  - How would you measure that? - robert.gaboury@videotron.ca 08:26:36 05/12/08 (0)
  - A speaker does not reproduce sound at the speed of sound. It cannot. - AJinFLA 10:00:44 05/06/08 (18)
    - If you can prove this otherwise, please do so. - tubesforever 23:08:02 05/06/08 (17)
      - RE: If you can prove this otherwise, please do so. - morricab 06:00:19 05/09/08 (1)
        
        We pick out poison when it comes to speakers.... - tubesforever 20:00:37 05/16/08 (0)
      - RE: If you can prove this otherwise, please do so. - morricab 05:55:59 05/09/08 (14)
        
        I do have a clue.... - tubesforever 22:18:26 05/09/08 (13)
        
        RE: I do have a clue.... - morricab 08:04:55 05/13/08 (3)
        
        "If the driver was in fact moving the speed of sound then we would hear a sonic boom from it " - Richard BassNut Greene 08:19:43 05/13/08 (2)
        
        Since speaker drivers are a hundred mile per hour short of the mark.... - tubesforever 20:09:43 05/16/08 (0)
        
        RE: "If the driver was in fact moving the speed of sound then we would hear a sonic boom from it " - morricab 04:24:04 05/14/08 (0)
        
        You are a bit confused, as example, does bass drum head move at 750mph when hit? - Edp 07:43:20 05/12/08 (8)
        
        No confusion...simple facts and reality. - tubesforever 00:09:16 05/13/08 (7)
        
        Well beyond confusion = Now sound doesn't travel at the speed of sound! - Richard BassNut Greene 08:07:35 05/13/08 (1)
        
        Get some experience Richard....and then you will understand more about what you are ranting about.... - tubesforever 23:23:23 05/14/08 (0)
        
        How can sound travel less than speed of sound? - Edp 07:55:51 05/13/08 (4)
        
        None of this is new..... - tubesforever 23:37:23 05/14/08 (1)
        
        Mr. F. Gump sez: " .... microphone and a speaker cannot accurately reproduce the actual musical event." - Richard BassNut Greene 09:46:32 05/15/08 (0)
        
        None of this is new..... - tubesforever 23:36:58 05/14/08 (0)
        
        In the wacky world of high end audio ANYTHING is possible, and even the wife could hear it - Richard BassNut Greene 08:32:28 05/13/08 (0)
  - My posts are based on data & measurements & blind tests ... while your "beliefs" contradict all subwoofer engineers - Richard BassNut Greene 08:57:54 05/05/08 (20)
    - Your lack of industry experience and professional audio simply amazes me.... - tubesforever 23:27:27 05/06/08 (19)
      - RE: Your lack of industry experience and professional audio simply amazes me.... - Edp 15:04:43 05/07/08 (14)
        
        Oh so now we're both wrong and you are right? I say all three of us are wrong & Linkwitz is right - Richard BassNut Greene 08:28:04 05/08/08 (6)
        
        Richard....Richard....Richard...... - tubesforever 23:56:38 05/08/08 (5)
        
        It's amazing how many wrong statements & red herrings you include in one post = are you drinking? - Richard BassNut Greene 09:56:02 05/09/08 (4)
        
        You create herrings????? Richard they have drugs for your condition..... - tubesforever 22:22:59 05/09/08 (3)
        
        A man who uses two 12" drivers shouldn't tell others bass sound best from small drivers = hypocrite - Richard BassNut Greene 13:42:09 05/10/08 (2)
        
        You need some really decent drugs Richard.... - tubesforever 22:22:23 05/10/08 (1)
        
        So what are you selling? - Richard BassNut Greene 08:34:19 05/13/08 (0)
        
        And I agree with you in several senses... - tubesforever 20:05:10 05/07/08 (6)
        
        "In my system I use two 12 inch ... drivers" = SO you use large diameter drivers & argue against them here - Richard BassNut Greene 08:33:53 05/08/08 (5)
        
        I guess you forgot our earlier discussions on subsonic reinforcement. - tubesforever 00:09:12 05/09/08 (4)
        
        Oh now I remember, you're the RELnut who calls a single 10" driver sealed subwoofer a "subsonic reinforcement driver"? - Richard BassNut Greene 10:12:07 05/09/08 (3)
        
        Experience can be an enlightening thing. - tubesforever 22:28:32 05/09/08 (2)
        
        I've heard many REL subwoofers -- they are nothing special for the price and corner locations make them worse - Richard BassNut Greene 13:58:28 05/10/08 (1)
        
        Richard, are we are getting somewhere? - tubesforever 22:28:45 05/10/08 (0)
      - YOU CLAIM: "A smaller bass driver produces less distortion than the larger drivers" = you are clueless - Richard BassNut Greene 08:00:06 05/07/08 (2)
        
        Well lets more closely define bass and drivers.... - tubesforever 20:46:02 05/07/08 (1)
        
        You're talking about upper bass and midrange while I'm talking about bass under 100 Hz. - Richard BassNut Greene 08:07:31 05/08/08 (0)
      - RE: Your lack of industry experience and professional audio simply amazes me.... - middleground 04:00:30 05/07/08 (0)
- RE: Because Amuricans are getting fatter and fatter, so they want speakers slimmer and slimmer - weltersys 17:35:26 05/03/08 (6)
  - If I said the sky is blue, you'd wait for a cloudy day and argue that it was white - Richard BassNut Greene 09:13:39 05/05/08 (0)
  - Absolutely correct..... - tubesforever 00:25:24 05/05/08 (4)
    - You are so clueless I nominate you as the Forest Gump of Audio - Richard BassNut Greene 09:26:36 05/05/08 (3)
      - And of course you can support anything at all about your post? - tubesforever 23:35:47 05/06/08 (1)
        
        "You have no industry experience & no experience with professional audio sound reinforcement" = you ARE Gump! - Richard BassNut Greene 08:13:24 05/07/08 (0)
      - File under, "Rainman crying Gump." nt - suits_me 23:29:24 05/05/08 (0)
RE: why do manufacturers opt for multiple small woofers rahter than fewer bigger woofers in speakers? - waldenpuddle 10:55:28 05/03/08 (0)
RE: why do manufacturers opt for multiple small woofers rahter than fewer bigger woofers in speakers? - mitch2 10:41:17 05/03/08 (0)
WAF - mbnx01 09:55:33 05/03/08 (1)
- Ding, Ding, Ding. We Have A Winner ! (nt ) - reelsmith. 17:21:14 05/04/08 (0)

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