In Reply to: upgrades exist outside of one aspect of a xover topology. posted by Edp on November 19, 2007 at 12:32:47:
Based on what I've heard from the Europa, that one aspect of crossover slope can make a critical difference. I often am walking around when my system's playing, in and out and across the room it's in, and lobing and off-axis response from the speakers is not a problem. Ironically, the changes in sound that happen when I do that remind me a lot of listening to live music being played while I'm walking around.
Furthermore, there are members of this hobby who insist on using single-driver speakers, which may have relatively awful performance in many of the parameters on your list, and yet those people can be adamant about the superiority of the sound they're getting. I'm convinced that what attracts 1st-order crossover fans, single-driver fans, as well as headphone users for that matter, is the same thing: not having to listen to a multi-order crossover cause temporal distortion. Real instruments have defined harmonic structures, but as I understand it, multi-order crossovers drive a sonic wedge into those structures and proceed to change their timing on either side of that wedge. The better my system gets, the more appreciative I am that I no longer use speakers which do that.
I know that maui can come across as a zealot, and as Rick points out, that doesn't help either maui's credibility or Roy's efforts. However, IME, maui's point is correct, removing temporal distortion has a huge positive effect on sound. How manufacturers implement doing so, whether they do so without the drawbacks you list, or whether doing so will even matter to your typical audiophile, I can't address. All I know is that for me, after hearing the Europa, and in reference to all the instruments I've heard being played live, the need for it to be done is crucial.__________________
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- But that one aspect is crucial - Todd B. 22:01:31 11/19/07 (3)
- And so is integration and so is overall tone and so is ... - Edp 14:26:44 11/21/07 (2)
- Of course they are - Todd B. 17:43:41 11/25/07 (1)
- I know they are not the same and specifically and carefully include ... - Edp 15:43:08 11/26/07 (0)