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Re: Interestingly enough, It was the bass that edeared me to the Magnepans

Well I would not trade you my $3500.00 standmounts for the Wilson Sophias -- iof this is what Wilson is about (in a professionally set up and treated room created FOR the speaker using $70k worth of Krell power amplification and Mark Levinson preamp and cd player) and my standmounts have better and very possibly deeper bass response and don;t need those amps to wrestle it out. So yes it's all in what one is directly comparing them to.

The 1.6 had resopnably decent bass - no amopunt of positioning can make them better than they were because they don't like corners - they simply do not produce deep bass and even in the midbass, on rock, they sounded like they were well well down and distant. The soundstage was massive up and down and left to right but the depth of body of instrumental decay and tone were 2dimensional. The speaker was also bright in the upper mid lower treble - which caused the listeners to exclaim they were bright. They also don;t like any kind of volume.

I don't want this to sound negative because I have heard many of the dealers other boxed speakers and many boxed speakers over the years that have some of if not all of the same problems. Consider the more expensive B&W 705 for example - it has no bass, lousy dynamics, also does not do tonality very well, beams, lacks a deep stage (and when it does seems fake, so dollar for dollar the 1.6 with it's big stage and "clarity" and holographics despite its flaws lays a whole world of hurt on the 705 and most of the speakers tht I have heard "like" the B&W 705.

Hearing a live drum kit and then listening to any panel I have ever heard so far, and other than Martin Logan who KNOW that they need a boxed woofer to get real bass, I won't soon be going the panel route. I have been told that big Apogees are an exception but then the bigger the speaker the further away from a point source the speakers get. ML has obvious audible problems in their bigger panels as the soud is stretched over a bigger area when it should not be. ML also doesn't get those woofers to integrate -- but I like the effort and I like some of their speakers a great deal -- Though maggie offers a much better value in my opinion.

The 20.1 I have never ever heard so it may offer the panacea.


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