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In Reply to: Virgos and tubes posted by SalD on May 31, 2000 at 22:09:16:
Out of respect for anyone who has the intelligence and good taste to purchase the AP Virgos, I didn't see the need to mention that these speakers need plenty of time to get settled in, or that a hundred hours of shifting them around the room, and fooling with bass traps and ab/fusors and Helmholtz resonators = "you get out what you put in". These are the kind of comments one might make to an entry-level audiophile, and those folk don't buy Virgos.I was intrigued by the comment that re-emplacement, however carefully done at the outset, might necessarily be redone when changing from SS to tubes. That's provocative. Thanks for that.
But what I find really interesting is the abuse of power I see posted here. Listed at 90 dbw, and tested at 89 (though the delta phase angle makes these numbers useless), and known to be enjoyed with amps such as the "gain card" (20 or so wpc), by respected industry pros, and even (God forbid) SETs (the horror!), what the heck is the room volume you guys are vibrating?
I'm using an enclosed volume of about 40 cubic meters, and driving the Virgos with about 100 wpc SS. I'm probably using all of 3 wpc most of the time--perhaps as much as 10 wpc in ear-splitting transient open E strings on the bass guitar. Naturally, I felt that the demanding Spanish guitar solos I love need much more power, so I'm having a pair of dedicated 400+ wpc monoblocks built.
Unfortunately, the version of Virgo I have only has one pair of binding posts per speaker, or I'd get another pair of monoblocks to bi-amp each channel. Do you all think this is enough power, or should I look for a smaller room? I could put the wife's business suits in the listening room, and use her walk-in closet with the sloped ceiling--hey--non-paralell walls! Wait! I'll have her leave the suits in the closet--more damping, and order some of those Everest monoblocks!
so please, what is your room size with these monster tube amps?
and another thing, bass is cheap. with a speaker that does so many things so well, what the heck are you complaining about? If you want some of that "crack-whore" bass that Americans can't live without--get a powered sub. You can get one for each corner of the room for less than the price of a tube change on a CJ12. I'm not following this sting at all. Are you guys serious?(using amplifiers as tone controls, with a speaker that is so fussy about placement--sheesh!)
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Follow Ups
- ? for all Virgo owners - petew 10:34:20 06/02/00 (2)
- Not a Virgo owner, but... - JTimothyA 21:57:15 06/02/00 (1)
- I understood that - petew 07:40:49 06/03/00 (0)
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