In Reply to: Have you heard Ligeti's Violin Concerto? IMHO the real deal, doesn't descend into compassionate cacaphonism. posted by jdaniel@jps.net on May 7, 2016 at 08:15:20:
They've been turning up in the big piano competitions for quite some time now. I have the Aimard complete recording, supplemented by performances of selections by Yuja, Babajan, et al. I also have the scores to all but the last couple of of them. I haven't heard the Violin Concerto however. BTW, I don't consider Ligeti a post-Webernist by any means.
So maybe Roy is right: I should define my terms. By post-Webernist, I mean a composer (like Boulez for instance) who uses the 12-tone principles of the Second Vienna School and extends them not only to cover pitch (i.e., the row itself), but also articulation, dynamics, rhythm, speed, etc., so that large parts of the score can almost be said to be "pre-composed" even before the composer starts to notate the composition! Of course, Webern himself was already well on his way along this path, a good example being the second movement of his Variations, Op. 27. Oh, and one other requirement for a piece to qualify as part of the post-Webernist aesthetic: the resulting composition has to be REALLY ugly too - that's a requirement! ;-)
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Follow Ups
- Yup - the Ligeti Piano Etudes are classics already - Chris from Lafayette 15:47:12 05/07/16 (4)
- RE: Yup - the Ligeti Piano Etudes are classics already - rbolaw 07:47:24 05/08/16 (3)
- RE: Yup - the Ligeti Piano Etudes are classics already - svisner 12:23:33 05/08/16 (0)
- I thought Bernstein was always on the Stravinsky side of the Schoenberg/Stravinsky split - Chris from Lafayette 10:08:09 05/08/16 (1)
- IIRC Bernstein saw such music as a good way to cleanse the (tonal) pallette. - jdaniel@jps.net 10:59:32 05/08/16 (0)