In Reply to: "Only from pov of timbre" posted by rbolaw on May 6, 2016 at 08:35:10:
Roy - you should be happy! I just checked all the hi-rez recordings of Handel's Messiah, and the only non-HIP ones available (in hi-rez) were the Colin Davis LSO Live set and his old Philips set, also with the LSO (now on a blu-ray audio disc). You've won the battle! Nevertheless, I'll continue to question the historical basis for the HIP sackcloth and ashes approach to string vibrato until someone can convince me otherwise - and I just don't see that happening. Indeed, the arguments in favor of the musicologist-approved minimalist approach to vibrato are incredibly weak IMHO and are based on misleading and incomplete interpretations of the contemporary sources. In addition, I'll continue to question the way in which actual and would-be academicians fall into line on this issue - with some important exceptions like David Hurwitz. (Check out his piece in "Music and Letters", February 2012!)As for post-Webernesque music, I say I've paid my dues over the years (listening to it way more than it deserves - for instance, don't forget that I've somehow acquired four different recordings of Boulez' Second Piano Sonata over the years), and I think I've earned my right to make observations about it, both for myself and for its repulsive effect on the general audience, as well as for its intimidating effect on other composers (with the serialists prancing around for awhile as if their approach was the one true direction for music - nothing else was legitimate!) I do admit that there is a fragment of an audience which champions this music however. But OTOH, these post-Webernists have already had their 50 years - and more - to make their impact, and, thank goodness, music has moved on in a different direction.
Edits: 05/06/16
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Follow Ups
- You may have had more than enough, but ever more tiresomeness awaits (at least as long as I'm around)! ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 09:31:58 05/06/16 (8)
- Have you heard Ligeti's Violin Concerto? IMHO the real deal, doesn't descend into compassionate cacaphonism. - jdaniel@jps.net 08:15:20 05/07/16 (5)
- Yup - the Ligeti Piano Etudes are classics already - Chris from Lafayette 15:47:12 05/07/16 (4)
- RE: Yup - the Ligeti Piano Etudes are classics already - rbolaw 07:47:24 05/08/16 (3)
- RE: Yup - the Ligeti Piano Etudes are classics already - svisner 12:23:33 05/08/16 (0)
- I thought Bernstein was always on the Stravinsky side of the Schoenberg/Stravinsky split - Chris from Lafayette 10:08:09 05/08/16 (1)
- IIRC Bernstein saw such music as a good way to cleanse the (tonal) pallette. - jdaniel@jps.net 10:59:32 05/08/16 (0)
- Yes, I know more tiresomeness awaits, but no battle. - rbolaw 10:10:29 05/06/16 (1)
- Really? You don't know who I mean by "post-Webernists"? (Hint: it's not Poulenc!) [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 00:55:42 05/07/16 (0)