Haitink's Bruckner 9th

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In Reply to: Haitink's Mahler 9th , April 14 posted by Utley1 on April 15, 2016 at 06:48:36:

Not to dampen your enthusiasm, but I heard Haitink conduct the Bruckner Ninth in Chicago with the CSO a few years ago.

It was OK over all, except for 2 serious Haitink-style shortcomings:

1. That massive dissonance at the climax of the adagio? The biggest and loudest forte in the whole piece? The very one that so terrified Ferdinand Lowe that in his spurious edition he just removed that massive 13-tone dissonance and replaced it with an inoffensive suspension.

As I sat in the audience listening to Haitink, I realized that he was pulling a semi-Lowe, and stripping the adagio of its power.

2. He's still deathly fearful of triple fortes [nothing louder than that is ever allowed by him], so he "clips" the loudest sounds that the orchestra makes. Many listeners may not even notice [you may not], but it gets on my nerves and frustrates the hell out of me. It's like a haircut - literally - to the orchestra. In his old age, he's stopped being a wimpy as he used to e back in his Concertgebouw days, when he wouldn't even allow anything to be played above mezzoforte, but that peak-clipping style of his is an irritant.

I expect that he'll do the same for the Mahler 9th.
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Topic - Haitink's Mahler 9th , April 14 - Utley1 06:48:36 04/15/16 (4)

Haitink's Bruckner 9th - Newey 11:25:31 04/15/16 (3)

RE: Haitink's Bruckner 9th - Utley1 12:24:55 04/15/16 (2)

Of all pieces, I like Haitink's Manfred. It seemed to have created a fire in his belly that day. Hs Philips - jdaniel@jps.net 14:39:18 04/15/16 (1)

RE: Of all pieces, I like Haitink's Manfred. It seemed to have created a fire in his belly that day. Hs Philips - Utley1 16:01:20 04/15/16 (0)

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Haitink's Bruckner 9th - Newey 11:25:31 04/15/16 (3)

RE: Haitink's Bruckner 9th - Utley1 12:24:55 04/15/16 (2)

Of all pieces, I like Haitink's Manfred. It seemed to have created a fire in his belly that day. Hs Philips - jdaniel@jps.net 14:39:18 04/15/16 (1)

RE: Of all pieces, I like Haitink's Manfred. It seemed to have created a fire in his belly that day. Hs Philips - Utley1 16:01:20 04/15/16 (0)

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