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In Reply to: Bruckner is the Donald Trump of this board posted by TGR on April 13, 2016 at 17:42:27:
Sure, you may think, would'nt that be true of every composer. Well, maybe. Maybe not. In the 19th cent, lots of low rank Russian composers churned out pieces that they called symphonies which, at least technically, were hardly more than tone poems to a greater or lesser degree, and certainly less than symphonic according to standards practiced at the same time elsewhere. You may take Ippolitov-Ivanov or Arensky as examples.
In the 20th cent, when you'd have thought that the form would've disappeared under the assault of every stripe of 20th cent "modernism" [now very old fashioned], tons and tons of symphonies were produced. I had acquired many of the American ones on Louisville Records and CRI Records back in the vinyl days. Almost all were mediocre efforts by now long forgotten "talents", and some were created in a deliberately off-hand, or even contemptuous, manner.
Bruckner, OTOH, devoted all of his energies to each and every single symphony he created. For him, each one was an effort of his whole being. Of course, he got better at the form as he went on. Just as with Mahler, every work counted.
Also, you're completely incorrect that Bruckner didn't compose much. He composed quite many motets and other church works. Sure, he didn't churn out 110 symphonies, 230 string quartets, and 553 piano sonatas as was typical for some powdered-wig era Haydnesque machine composer, but that's because of the intellectual/emotional cost required of a Romantic era symphony in general, and a Bruckner symphony in particular.
On another note, one of my bucket lists is to hear all of the Bruckner symphonies in concert performance [excepting the Study Symphony, but not excepting the underappreciated Nulte]. So far, I've heard:
#2 - Muti
#4 - Dohnanyi
#5 - Asahina [wow]
#7 - Barenboim
#9 - Asahina [wow]
#9 - Haitink
Severius! Supremus Invictus
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Follow Ups
- Wrong - For Bruckner Himself - Every One of His Symphonies Was Important - Newey 19:20:24 04/13/16 (17)
- Of course - TGR 16:05:59 04/14/16 (3)
- The easy answer is that Bruckner at his best is pretty glorious and transcendent - Chris from Lafayette 19:07:23 04/14/16 (2)
- Amen to that Nt - Frihed89 07:32:17 04/19/16 (0)
- Exactly [nt] - Newey 23:57:42 04/14/16 (0)
- Are you going to attend the CSO Season finale.... - kuma 00:27:52 04/14/16 (3)
- It Burns Me Up That I'll Be Out of Town - Newey 23:59:21 04/14/16 (2)
- Out of Town - So check out CSO Broadcasts for it. - oldmkvi 08:02:10 04/17/16 (1)
- Ah - Of Course - WFMT - thanks [nt] - Newey 20:58:32 04/18/16 (0)
- Sorry no: the first two symphonies are charming and we'll leave it at that - jdaniel@jps.net 20:15:32 04/13/16 (8)
- Disagree - Newey 21:49:38 04/13/16 (7)
- Re: 2nd Symphony ... the slow mov't is lovely and one of the few times in which Bruckner IMHO isn't trying - jdaniel@jps.net 08:22:18 04/14/16 (5)
- Uh. . . which version of No. 1 were you listening to? Linz or Vienna? - Chris from Lafayette 10:07:43 04/14/16 (4)
- Vinyl Addicts - Newey 11:57:42 04/15/16 (3)
- "grate on my nerves." Like some of your posts... - oldmkvi 08:05:14 04/17/16 (2)
- RE: "Moniker." - Ivan303 18:05:13 04/18/16 (1)
- Used To Go By Severius! Supremus Invictus - Newey 20:59:34 04/18/16 (0)
- OK, you've inspired me to listen to the 1st again before bed. Jochum's FWIW. nt - jdaniel@jps.net 22:11:58 04/13/16 (0)
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