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In Reply to: RE: Starting from scratch which piece of the system do you put in place first? posted by sqlsavior on December 3, 2016 at 00:10:25:
Well, I am a little weird so I guess I'll tell you how I would do it if I could, and actually did when I could.
First of all the source goes in or near a corner, along with monitor, TV whatever. This meant the room is kinda turned sideways at a 45 degree angle. You take one speaker and put it about 2/3 the way from the corner. Noe get out the calculator and factor that distance to 1.618, then take whatever that factor is and take it to 0.618 and that is how far you place the other speaker from the same corner. I believe this give the biggest sweet spot, but might really not do too well on the Wife acceptance factor. In a room that is practically square though, the method does cut down on resonances and you should get better bass.
If you got the power and enough bass, the LAST place you want your speakers in in corners, and you don't want them to be equidistant from the corners either. The advantage is if you use your good system when to watch the TV, the TV goes in the corner.
I have only had a couple of places where I could do this but when I did people said "Damn, this is excellent". And it sounds really good with good imaging, so much so that i f you got reflective walls it almost sounds like you have surround sound.
Unfortunately due to doorways, windows and whatnot you can't always do it. But if a doorway is right at the corner of the room go ahead and put one speaker there. Some of the radiation will be going into a half space instead of a quarter space and that is usually good. (of course you have them up off the floor, the floor creates a half space all its own and then the wall makes a quarter space and a corner makes an eighth space, not good)
If you have say a livingroom and a big wide doorway to the diningroom, use the corner as far away from the didingroom as possible. For one you might get some imaging in the other room but also the bass bounces against a farther wall, in fact you might find that it actually sounds better in the diningroom. So if you like to play cards or whatever that is a big plus. Of course you don't want it loud, and I don't really care for music while eating. I have almost walked out of restaurants when the music was too loud for my taste, and we are talking a guy who has played live music, been to rock concerts and got up right near the speakers ad even been in jail for a loud stereo. (details on that in another thread, in fact maybe I'll write that tonight as I have some time on my hands)
Anyway, forget the conventional, and I have even done this corner type setup with a quad system and it turned out great. That really worked out as I had one of those Advent five foot silver screen TVs with the mirror in front. Mine worked RIGHT baby, perfect convergence, fresh tubes and everything in perfect alignment, the best one in town, and bright. Those things, since the screen was at the back, put you a little bit farther away than a regular RPTV. One day I'll describe that system. I had beta and VHS, cable, tape to tape both ways and cassette. Don't remember having a turntable on that one but didn't need it, had a CD player.
I do remember movies on it, Days Of Thunder, the cars really did go around the room, Star Trek, when the ship came at the screen it did go to the back. All off a little Marantz Quadradial receiver, set right of course. Well that wasn't the amplification, it was used as a preamp actually. If you use one for that, set the Dimension control between 2 and 3 oclock for best results.
Many houses lend themselves to this type of setup but people seem never to try it because it is unconventional, and the worst part of unconventional is the WAF. They seem to hate it. I remember my Uncle before he got married, had a bunch of recliners. Want to get cozy with your honey that's what beds are for. Of course you can have a system in there as well, and back then you just tuned in the cable with your TV so you didn't need to rent another box. Later he got married and all the sudden there was a couch, and no more mushrooms growing in the bathroom. And they cheated at pinochle.
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