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In Reply to: RE: As tt indicated, I refer to accumulated debt posted by E-Stat on May 12, 2016 at 17:34:53:
Your wife's parents should be commended. If more people did those sorts of things we'd probably be better off.
I understand the irritation with the liberal like Bill when they say they could spend money better than you. Although what I would say is he's not talking about you or your wife's family - he's probably referring to the 9/10 who do nothing.
An individual can make a charitable donation instead of paying a tax but perhaps a tax can build a pool of money that can do a better job. An analogy might be a guy comes into the hospital with a bullet in his chest and 50 mosquito bites. A pool of money with one decision maker puts the money to hiring the best surgeons to deal with the chest and save the guy's life. The individual charities operating individually have smaller amounts of money - each can afford to deal with the 50 mosquito bites and there's only money for a band-aid for the guy's chest.
Sure the mosquito bite swelling is down and he can't feel the itch because he's dead.
If you think about - each person looks at the tax system from their own belief systems. A very conservative Christian might hate the idea of their tax money going to things that support gay marriage or helping women get abortions or various other programs. On the other side is the Atheist Liberal who get irritated that their tax money funds teaching some sort of creationism in the classroom, or that all churches ride completely tax free or money for military etc.
The point is that the money gets spent and each side will complain about what the money gets spent on. You can't please everyone - so I suppose that's why you have a vote - you choose the person who will spend your money on the things you want it spent on. You choose which person is more palatable on other social domestic issues. Depending on your situation you will vote accordingly. It's like the people who were hippies in the 60s and now very conservative - it's easy to vote liberal when you have nothing and then when you have something - you want to protect it.
For instance your wife's parents are certainly doing their part (more than their part in fact). So you could say - hey why pay tax why not rely on charity - but it makes the assumption that people are generous kind hearted people. I hate to be a cynic but I don't think most people are. Most people don't put their money or time to support their views.
Hypothetical: Take 100 relatively wealthy people and say okay these 100 people make $1 million each.
We can tax them at 20% and for a tax take of $20,000,000 and we can use that money to deal with special needs education in the given city (where the bill is $19,897,000. Covered and covered well with spare money leftover to test even better newer programs.
Or we can not tax them and rely on charity. Ten people are generous they give $300,000 each let's say - even more than they would be taxed. 20 more would give the tax rate - 20 more would give $100k and 20 would give $50k but 30 will give nothing - they're saving for the new Mercedes.
The problem now is that you only got $10m to deal with the issue but you needed $19.87m to actually do the thing properly.
Your wife's parents I respect because they actually put their money and time and love behind their beliefs. Perhaps they are pro-life and they back it up. What bothers me is people who claim to be pro-life but in fact are only pro-birth and then proceed to wash their hands of paying extra taxes to look after all the children with no parents where there isn't someone who volunteers to take them in. The state then needs money to look after them. From a purely business mindset- if you are going to force someone to have their kid - you better be willing to pay for that kid for their entire upbringing. If you convince them to have an abortion it saves a huge amount of money and resources.
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