In Reply to: RE: Wow interesting. posted by MannyE on October 27, 2015 at 13:30:29:
Those $80,000 systems don't reflect anyone making insane profits, even though it seems that way. The dealer probably sells 4 or 5 of those things a year. He'll have about a 40% markup, so he's making about $33,000 on the sale. While 5 sales at an annual revenue of $160,000 sounds like a lot, he has to pay for floor room space to show it, salaries of sales people, etc. Nobody in the hi-fi retail biz gets rich. Most of the sales people can't afford the hi-end gear they sell, even at the sizable discounts they get.
Then the distributor gets about 30% of the retail sale price, but he's not getting rich either. The manufacturer then gets only about 30% of the retail price, or about $24,000 of the original $80,000. He probably sells 50 units per year, or about $1,200,000 in revenue. Out of that he has to pay a number of people, rent, utilities, materials cost, R&D, etc... Nobody is getting rich.
Where we as DIY guys make out is that the R&D has already been done for us by Siegfried Linkwitz, who's one of the very best audio engineers on the planet. So all it costs us is materials and labor.
There's a guy in Healdsburg who's been doing custom builds of the Orion design for years. I'm sure he'd be happy to do a custom build of the LX521. He sells the Orion for $15,000, including amplification I believe. I'd expect the LX521 to be priced in the same ballpark. He has to charge for his time, premium materials, expertise, shop time, etc. He makes a reasonable amount on it, but he's not getting rich either. Not at the level of workmanship he provides.
That $15,000 is actually the manufacturer's price. So now add on 30% for the distributor and another 40% for the retailer, and you've got a retail price of about $50,000. So yeah. Building your own is one heck of a deal!
Go for it Dude!
Russ
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- RE: Wow interesting. - rustybutt 13:49:29 10/27/15 (19)
- " the R&D has already been done for us by Siegfried Linkwitz" - Lee M 15:54:41 10/27/15 (17)
- RE: " the R&D has already been done for us by Siegfried Linkwitz" - rustybutt 16:33:50 10/27/15 (16)
- "I find it interesting that so many are unwilling to believe... - Lee M 07:09:26 10/28/15 (6)
- RE: "I find it interesting that so many are unwilling to believe... - rustybutt 09:21:04 10/28/15 (5)
- RE: "I find it interesting that so many are unwilling to believe... - Lee M 10:22:53 10/28/15 (4)
- RE: "I find it interesting that so many are unwilling to believe... - rustybutt 10:29:42 10/28/15 (3)
- "but you explain to my wife".. - Lee M 14:04:07 10/28/15 (2)
- I wonder what percentage of audio nuts have tried diy.. - Lee M 14:14:24 10/28/15 (1)
- RE: I wonder what percentage of audio nuts have tried diy.. - MannyE 14:57:14 10/29/15 (0)
- Couldn't say it better myself! - MannyE 19:07:19 10/27/15 (8)
- RE: Couldn't say it better myself! - rustybutt 09:15:37 10/28/15 (7)
- Looks similar to my space... - MannyE 19:52:35 10/28/15 (6)
- RE: Looks similar to my space... - rustybutt 19:57:21 10/28/15 (5)
- RE: Looks similar to my space... - MannyE 05:55:17 10/29/15 (4)
- RE: Looks similar to my space... - rustybutt 07:01:00 10/29/15 (3)
- Oh my...those Estelon Extremes! - MannyE 15:06:07 10/29/15 (1)
- RE: Oh my...those Estelon Extremes! - rustybutt 15:15:36 10/29/15 (0)
- LOL...yes... every single one of those would be ugly - MannyE 14:54:19 10/29/15 (0)
- RE: Wow interesting. - MannyE 15:19:40 10/27/15 (0)