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Very well put..

I don't have a problem that you picked a single species to make a difference. At least you are doing something rather than talking about it. My approach is more broad. To each his own.

I'd like to point out that most scientists agree on the benefits of psychotropic drugs. The public has accepted this, in part, because the experts told them so. The scientists point to their studies as proof. But it turns out the studies are designed to skew the data in their favor. Who are paying these scientists? What would happen to their careers if the opposite were true? Then the doctors (psychiatrists) tell their patients they have a pill(s) that will cure what ails them. The patient accepts this without question. The doctors are the experts and the pill(s) are an easy solution requiring no more effort on the patients part to get well. These doctors spent a lot of time (12 years or so) and money getting their degrees and they always point to that when challenged. How could a lowly engineer like myself (we all know how to lie with statistics) know more than they do? Anyway, see the link below. You might find it interesting. I think it is one of the most important books, especially for parents, that most people will ever read. BTW, I spent months doing my own research in an attempt to refute the information in the book. I could not find anything significant.

I'm not implying that you or your colleges fall into this category. Just saying I don't automatically trust information from scientists and doctors anymore than you trust information on the internet.

Just one more thing. In Costa Rica we lived on a two kilometer white sand beach with incredible waves for surfing, one of my passions. This beach is also one of the main nesting beaches in Central America for the giant leatherback turtle, also quickly and sadly on it's way to extinction. Not as smart as the other animals we are discussing but still an incredible creature. We helped the rangers patrol the beaches at night and early morning to keep the egg poachers away. Being on this beautiful beach at night under a full moon watching these turtles, about the size of small car, come out of the water, dig their nests, lay their eggs, and return to the water is one of the most amazing things I have ever witnessed. Many well meaning people like yourself, with a passion just for this species, pour tens of millions of dollars into two US non-profit organizations that claim to be protectors of this turtle. In an attempt to keep a book size description of what is really going on down to a few sentences, all I will say is almost no money ever actually goes to the turtles. For example, an extra $100k a year would add enough additional rangers and provide maintenance and gas for the patrol boat they already have but has been sitting unused for years due to lack of funds and solve the poaching problem. Not a cent, during our five years there, went to this. Most of the money goes to their lawyers to keep people like me quiet. Notice, I didn't mention names; they have come after me in the past and I simply don't don't have enough money to fight them. Long story short, it's a land grab to one day build a giant, highly profitable eco resort. You dig deeper and see the huge salaries that go the the founders and administrators. My point is, be very careful if you are sending money to Africa. I've learned through this experience and others that what you see is usually not what you get. Hence leaving the US as an idealist and returning a realist.

Bottom line: in all the examples above, to get to the truth, just follow the money.

Thanks for taking the time to post and your patience in reading my replies.
Open up your mind, in pours the trash. - Meat Puppets, 1987



Edits: 05/09/15 05/09/15

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