In Reply to: RE: trust, faith, or confidence in someone or something. posted by Steve O on January 22, 2015 at 16:11:18:
""I'm asking why they MUST be sonically different.""
They may not be sonically that much different, - especially if used out of context: like with a Sharp boombox. I never asserted anything about whether they are different or not sonically.
""That you think I need to see a pic of them to understand the differences causes me to wonder if what you hear is influenced by what you see."
You've wasted that sentence, - as mentioned, - not sonic.
""How do you arrive at the conclusion "they" are a small minority?""
Because people who've heard many cables do not assert that position.
""Neither of those statements ring true from my experience"
Would you care to enumerate your experience(s)? Please be specific.
""What makes you believe they're insecure and unknowledgeable?""
When queried, and asked for specifics, we (almost always) find that they haven't done much of any experimentation on their own: and/or applied tests out of context, = performed bad tests, - that set up obvious straw men.
""You've presented opinion as fact""
No, I have not. The only "facts" I've presented are that (outside sonics), there are some very real, physical, [objective] differences in various cables. And, - that when most everyone who conducts good scientific investigations through decent controls, in the proper context, - assert that different cables affect the sonic character of the system.
""Your argument remains unconvincing""
I am not trying to convince anyone of anything, I am not making any universal claims. I am convinced by the evidence that I have, for myself.
My claim is my claim. OTOH, I do gain a measure of confidence by having people with the same, and more, experiences corroborate those.
"and the arrogant"
Me asserting what I hear, and repeating the claims of others?
I don't think so...
IT IS FAR MORE ARROGANT for people to make the untested, inexperienced, and baseless claim that I did not hear a difference.
IT IS FAR MORE ARROGANT for someone to say that they are GOD and claim that I am lying for asserting that I heard something: especially if they were not there, and/or have any experience with my system(s) in my home. Or, - attended the 20 + shows that I've been to, or been to the 20+ homes of friends that I've been to... etc etc. etc.
""because there's a desperate quality about it.""
Likely a mis-interpretation on your part, considering that I have nothing to "prove"
"Later"
Much...
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
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Follow Ups
- RE: trust, faith, or confidence in someone or something. - Sordidman 17:38:39 01/22/15 (7)
- And what about those that have extensive experience and claim cables don't matter? - kuribo 06:11:43 01/23/15 (6)
- RE: And what about those that have extensive experience and claim cables don't matter? - Sordidman 09:23:59 01/23/15 (5)
- Here's a start.... - kuribo 16:13:11 01/23/15 (4)
- I predict... - Steve O 20:21:53 01/23/15 (3)
- See - you DO get it. But it's all irrelevant anyway. - carcass93 09:11:27 01/24/15 (1)
- And you get it too! (nt) - Steve O 10:41:43 01/24/15 (0)
- But of course....nt - kuribo 21:08:00 01/23/15 (0)