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In Reply to: It's a fuzzy world posted by Goober58 on July 21, 2014 at 17:37:47:
No matter where you "shop" and what you "shop" for ... the various components' weaknesses are traded off vs one another.
The most satisfying systems are weak in areas that subjectively don't matter as much to the end user - and all the things that make it feel good and realistic are intact and done perfectly.
When all is reduced to the simplest thing, it is that.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Wouldn’t it be great to measure overall system improvement? - skinzy 09:34:32 07/21/14 (64)
- RE: Wouldn’t it be great to measure overall system improvement? - skinzy 14:41:50 07/24/14 (0)
- Done on a monthly basis, it might actually work - genungo 09:57:22 07/24/14 (0)
- RE: Wouldn’t it be great to measure overall system improvement? - Inmate51 09:34:34 07/24/14 (0)
- RE: Wouldn’t it be great to measure overall system improvement? - Bob Neill 13:55:52 07/22/14 (1)
- I share your feelings - Frihed89 01:24:43 07/23/14 (0)
- We need an electronic ear.... - StephenJK 13:00:54 07/22/14 (0)
- Impossible... - mkuller 12:23:49 07/22/14 (2)
- RE: Impossible... - morricab 14:47:27 07/22/14 (1)
- RE: Impossible... - mkuller 15:39:19 07/22/14 (0)
- A very simple. effective, objective and reliable method could stop the game - beppe61 04:23:28 07/22/14 (31)
- A "simple" objective test is in fact not so simple. - morricab 14:43:00 07/22/14 (8)
- RE: A "simple" objective test is in fact not so simple. - beppe61 07:39:56 07/23/14 (7)
- RE: A "simple" objective test is in fact not so simple. - morricab 08:04:11 07/26/14 (6)
- RE: A "simple" objective test is in fact not so simple. - beppe61 09:19:19 07/26/14 (5)
- Ear vs. Microphone - Inmate51 14:02:05 07/26/14 (4)
- RE: Ear vs. Microphone - beppe61 02:38:58 07/27/14 (3)
- RE: Ear vs. Microphone - Inmate51 06:04:01 07/27/14 (2)
- " the ultimate test would always be to listen " - beppe61 22:23:34 07/27/14 (0)
- RE: Ear vs. Microphone - rick_m 08:33:22 07/27/14 (0)
- Wouldn't stop anything. Matter of fact people can do what you suggest but don't. - Goober58 11:26:08 07/22/14 (11)
- RE: Wouldn't stop anything. Matter of fact people can do what you suggest but don't. - beppe61 07:44:16 07/23/14 (10)
- Fair enough but it's up to you to do that - Goober58 08:44:01 07/23/14 (3)
- RE: Fair enough but it's up to you to do that - beppe61 10:59:11 07/24/14 (2)
- RE: Fair enough but it's up to you to do that - Goober58 10:22:13 07/25/14 (1)
- RE: Fair enough but it's up to you to do that - beppe61 02:04:05 07/26/14 (0)
- RE: Wouldn't stop anything. Matter of fact people can do what you suggest but don't. - Tony Lauck 08:34:16 07/23/14 (5)
- RE: Wouldn't stop anything. Matter of fact people can do what you suggest but don't. - rick_m 07:48:35 07/26/14 (0)
- RE: Wouldn't stop anything. Matter of fact people can do what you suggest but don't. - beppe61 11:05:19 07/24/14 (3)
- RE: Wouldn't stop anything. Matter of fact people can do what you suggest but don't. - Tony Lauck 12:45:00 07/24/14 (0)
- RE: Wouldn't stop anything. Matter of fact people can do what you suggest but don't. - Inmate51 11:58:11 07/24/14 (1)
- RE: Wouldn't stop anything. Matter of fact people can do what you suggest but don't. - beppe61 23:24:21 07/24/14 (0)
- RE: A very simple. effective, objective and reliable method could stop the game - E-Stat 10:24:53 07/22/14 (3)
- " If it measures good and sounds bad, -- it is bad" - beppe61 07:51:00 07/23/14 (2)
- Sure! (longish) - E-Stat 10:15:27 07/23/14 (1)
- RE: Sure! (longish) - beppe61 08:56:50 07/24/14 (0)
- RE: A very simple. effective, objective and reliable method could stop the game - middleground 05:01:58 07/22/14 (5)
- By the way this is fine if it does not become an obsession - beppe61 08:05:35 07/23/14 (0)
- If that were to happen... - mkuller 12:04:54 07/22/14 (0)
- LOL - it's not the industry's fault you or others don't use measurement when making buying decisions - Goober58 11:32:05 07/22/14 (0)
- Hear, hear!! - rlw 06:03:53 07/22/14 (1)
- RE: Hear, hear!! - middleground 17:50:57 07/22/14 (0)
- Do measurements sound better? - Rod M 18:57:53 07/21/14 (0)
- Listener Surveys........ - Todd Krieger 17:50:33 07/21/14 (6)
- Wouldn't that reveal the most average system? - Goober58 19:24:43 07/21/14 (3)
- RE: Wouldn't that reveal the most average system? - Todd Krieger 19:39:26 07/21/14 (2)
- RE: Wouldn't that reveal the most average system? - Goober58 20:17:07 07/21/14 (1)
- Live music has so many meanings & contexts ... - three_sox 01:05:06 07/22/14 (0)
- Yeah, but .... - three_sox 18:21:11 07/21/14 (1)
- It's a trend to embrace the mediocre and shun the unique and exceptional. - Goober58 19:29:09 07/21/14 (0)
- It's a fuzzy world - Goober58 17:37:47 07/21/14 (2)
- Agree! - Bromo33333 17:51:48 07/27/14 (0)
- how we quantify things is purely subjective - Bob Neill 13:57:49 07/22/14 (0)
- RE: Wouldn’t it be great to measure overall system improvement? - middleground 16:45:12 07/21/14 (0)
- RE: Wouldn’t it be great to measure overall system improvement? - skinzy 12:58:20 07/21/14 (3)
- RE: Wouldn’t it be great to measure overall system improvement? - Rod M 19:16:27 07/21/14 (0)
- RE: Wouldn’t it be great to measure overall system improvement? - tomservo 16:07:29 07/21/14 (1)
- RE: Wouldn’t it be great to measure overall system improvement? - skinzy 17:11:08 07/21/14 (0)
- It's subjective after a certain point ... - Bromo33333 12:32:21 07/21/14 (1)
- What "sins of omission" will you not miss. - Bob Neill 13:59:12 07/22/14 (0)
- You have your query and answer in one post -"its called our ears"... - musetap 10:47:40 07/21/14 (0)
- Here's the scoop.. - ppopp 10:28:52 07/21/14 (2)
- All of that and... - E-Stat 15:14:26 07/21/14 (0)
- Yes - Bromo33333 13:17:22 07/21/14 (0)
- I thought that was what our brains already did nt - Frihed89 09:53:08 07/21/14 (0)
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- Agree! - Bromo33333 17:51:48 07/27/14 (0)