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Happy to kill this thread

but it seesm I can't. I thought it was recent news and hadn't been covered already.

Re discussion so far;

1. Yes it does bring out comparisons to the DBT religious arguments, but
2. This is about professional musicians with presumably great ears not being able to tell the supposedly superior instruments from new ones, which may indeed meant that some modern luthiers have got it right. (So the headline is indeed misleading.)

CBC's headline today on this story is
"Stradivarius violins lose in blind test against new ones -
Antique Italian violins may not deserve their legendary reputation"
which may be more accurate.

My first comment was meant to point out that we assume our ears are "golden" and yet so often they are not. DBT seems to me the only scientific way of finding out whether we really can detect differences without seeing the hardware. If we don't trust our unbiased ears, what is left?

FWIW, I've worked as a professional musician and in audio for much of my life, and am close to two professional classical violinists (partner and sister-in-law). Thus I've heard a lot of the arguments and issues re finding the right instruments and getting sound out of it.

Clearly DBT is a religious argument here so I'm happy to stop. How do we kill this monster?

Learning is not compulsory... neither is survival. W. Edwards Deming (1900 - 1993)


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