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In Reply to: RE: Subjectivist Audiophiles ... posted by mauimusicman on May 6, 2012 at 15:38:46:
is that some songs are commonly misinterpreted, and in fact become popular as a result of how most people interpret them.
One example is the song "Drops of Jupiter" by Train. Usually related to as a song of loving and leaving by a partner, it in fact was written in memory of the writer's mom, who had passed away! So should we feel the same?
A member of AC/DC claims "You Shook Me All Night Long" is about a car. While it hints at that, I don't believe the lyrics support it thoughout, and doubt that is what most people think when they hear it.
To say a better system would help you distinguish such things, when the emotional response can differ if you accept the true origins of the songs, seems unlikely.
I think a good system just brings out a deeper and stronger emotional response, regardless of lyric or musical intent. I am arguing that there is no absolute meaning.
Steve
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Subjectivist Audiophiles ... - middleground 04:32:06 05/03/12 (135)
- RE: Subjectivist Audiophiles ... - mauimusicman 15:38:46 05/06/12 (1)
- Now what I find interesting about that, and why I am dubious... - Steve Parry 13:26:48 05/09/12 (0)
- Funny thing - josh358 07:41:02 05/05/12 (17)
- RE: Funny thing - middleground 09:25:15 05/05/12 (13)
- RE: Funny thing - josh358 09:53:21 05/05/12 (12)
- RE: Funny thing - middleground 12:20:35 05/05/12 (1)
- RE: Funny thing - josh358 14:23:29 05/05/12 (0)
- Excellent post (nt) - kerr 11:27:56 05/05/12 (1)
- RE: Excellent post (nt) - josh358 14:33:04 05/06/12 (0)
- RE: Funny thing - geoffkait 10:39:21 05/05/12 (7)
- RE: Funny thing - josh358 14:05:14 05/05/12 (6)
- RE: Funny thing - middleground 14:03:35 05/06/12 (1)
- RE: Funny thing - josh358 14:26:03 05/06/12 (0)
- RE: Funny thing - geoffkait 14:36:05 05/05/12 (3)
- RE: Funny thing - josh358 14:32:42 05/06/12 (0)
- RE: Funny thing - middleground 14:05:08 05/06/12 (1)
- RE: Funny thing - geoffkait 14:24:17 05/06/12 (0)
- Funny thing, not one salient point. - soulfood 08:46:43 05/05/12 (2)
- RE: Funny thing, not one salient point. - middleground 09:26:31 05/05/12 (1)
- RE: Funny thing, not one salient point. - soulfood 12:45:01 05/05/12 (0)
- Implies there is one objective meaning for a subjective experience, which is nutty!...nt - Steve Parry 13:31:49 05/04/12 (2)
- Subjective "meaning" is not a difficult concept to grasp - genungo 04:10:54 05/05/12 (1)
- Oh I agree with you...in which case you would just say... - Steve Parry 05:31:44 05/05/12 (0)
- Would anyone buy equipment based on measurements alone? - petertg 12:22:36 05/04/12 (2)
- RE: Would anyone buy equipment based on measurements alone? - middleground 12:40:44 05/04/12 (1)
- yeah, he forgot to add price too -t - Sordidman 13:42:45 05/04/12 (0)
- RE: Subjectivist Audiophiles ... - nairb 03:13:55 05/04/12 (0)
- "Subjectivist Audiophiles ... have taken leave of their senses." - genungo 03:08:40 05/04/12 (0)
- There is a level of refinement that communicates more emotion - madisonears 17:30:32 05/03/12 (0)
- Pay no attention to the glossy rags..... - Justlisten2 16:05:27 05/03/12 (0)
- If you're not with us, you're - Presto 13:23:39 05/03/12 (21)
- RE: If you're not with us, you're - josh358 07:15:21 05/05/12 (0)
- RE: If you're not with us, you're - middleground 06:31:00 05/04/12 (4)
- RE: If you're not with us, you're - bjh 06:49:10 05/04/12 (3)
- RE: If you're not with us, you're - middleground 07:19:25 05/04/12 (2)
- RE: If you're not with us, you're - bjh 07:23:44 05/04/12 (1)
- RE: If you're not with us, you're - Ozzy 07:35:17 05/04/12 (0)
- great post; where can I get one of those 'bowls on spikes?!' nt - Green Lantern 20:49:26 05/03/12 (1)
- RE: great post; where can I get one of those 'bowls on spikes?!' nt - Presto 14:09:34 05/04/12 (0)
- Fantastic! NT - RGA 18:05:01 05/03/12 (0)
- "Be nuts on the cheap" ... - reelsmith. 16:49:24 05/03/12 (0)
- RE: At band camp? That Slut!!! - amioutaline? 16:08:20 05/03/12 (2)
- Hey. Watch your mouth... - tweakk 16:44:57 05/03/12 (1)
- Oops! - BillyBenBilly 17:32:54 05/04/12 (0)
- RE: If you're not with us, you're - Jack G 16:00:20 05/03/12 (1)
- RE: If you're not with us, you're - middleground 06:33:12 05/04/12 (0)
- My vote for post of the year! nt - Chris Adams 15:05:19 05/03/12 (2)
- RE: My vote for post of the year! nt - tedk. 15:41:50 05/03/12 (1)
- AGREED! NT - ahendler 15:49:05 05/03/12 (0)
- Outta here you you ... sane-case! Nt - bjh 14:46:25 05/03/12 (2)
- I'm either completely sane... - Presto 14:59:49 05/03/12 (1)
- "Audio Gemini" I see the philosophy goes beyond audiophia ... Good on ya! :) ntt - bjh 15:18:48 05/03/12 (0)
- Music means something? nt - cjfrbw 12:57:12 05/03/12 (3)
- Yes, it can have actual "meaning"... - genungo 09:44:18 05/06/12 (0)
- RE: Music means something? nt - ahendler 15:51:44 05/03/12 (0)
- See? You need that piece of gear from the review! - Enophile 13:04:22 05/03/12 (0)
- Why does ANYONE care what sort of nonsense others believe or think? Like the critic is the "Thought Police".. - Elizabeth 11:32:59 05/03/12 (11)
- RE: Why does ANYONE care what sort of nonsense others believe or think? Like the critic is the "Thought Police".. - middleground 06:37:08 05/04/12 (7)
- RE: Why does ANYONE care what sort of nonsense others believe or think? Like the critic is the "Thought Police".. - kerr 11:24:12 05/05/12 (0)
- That is no one's problem except the parent of that kid They should'a used a contraceptive. - Elizabeth 07:26:37 05/04/12 (5)
- RE: That is no one's problem except the parent of that kid They should'a used a contraceptive. - middleground 11:46:10 05/04/12 (2)
- I just do not like BS 'you should feel bad/sorry because... 'crap. - Elizabeth 12:32:00 05/04/12 (1)
- RE: I just do not like BS 'you should feel bad/sorry because... 'crap. - middleground 12:42:22 05/04/12 (0)
- RE: That is no one's problem except the parent of that kid They should'a used a contraceptive. - must 11:05:33 05/04/12 (1)
- LOL, yeah - josh358 07:26:28 05/05/12 (0)
- RE: Why does ANYONE care what sort of nonsense others believe or think? Like the critic is the "Thought Police".. - ahendler 15:53:09 05/03/12 (2)
- RE: somewhat disagree . . . - Hi-Fi Nut 02:44:49 05/06/12 (0)
- You are correct. nt - Elizabeth 07:27:16 05/04/12 (0)
- "Objective" (never understood the meaning in this context, BTW) pseudo-scientific anti-audiophiles... - carcass93 11:16:25 05/03/12 (13)
- Not anti-audiophiles... - Enophile 11:33:03 05/03/12 (12)
- RE: Not anti-audiophiles... - ahendler 15:54:35 05/03/12 (0)
- Mr. Enophile - Sordidman 15:51:44 05/03/12 (9)
- RE: Mr. Enophile - middleground 06:39:01 05/04/12 (1)
- No, it's more a matter of, if you don't try, you can't succeed -t - Sordidman 08:41:50 05/04/12 (0)
- I like the people who can hear "order of magnitude" differences...'night and day' differences... - Enophile 16:54:53 05/03/12 (5)
- If for nothing else, consistency - Sordidman 09:24:09 05/04/12 (0)
- RE: I like the people who can hear "order of magnitude" differences...'night and day' differences... - middleground 06:40:54 05/04/12 (0)
- RE: I like the people who can hear "order of magnitude" differences...'night and day' differences... - kerr 06:19:41 05/04/12 (2)
- RE: I like the people who can hear "order of magnitude" differences...'night and day' differences... - middleground 06:41:59 05/04/12 (1)
- RE: I like the people who can hear "order of magnitude" differences...'night and day' differences... - kerr 07:25:30 05/05/12 (0)
- You've never heard of the mathematics of Chaos Theory?(nt) - mgbpuff 16:13:07 05/03/12 (0)
- I'm an objectivist because... - Jim Austin 14:52:22 05/03/12 (0)
- That's nothing new... - mkuller 10:56:19 05/03/12 (4)
- RE: That's nothing new... - middleground 06:43:11 05/04/12 (1)
- You could ask... - mkuller 08:26:25 05/04/12 (0)
- I finally get it.. - JayG 20:58:17 05/03/12 (1)
- You got it... - mkuller 21:10:08 05/03/12 (0)
- Cool. Then he can get back to us on this ... - reelsmith. 10:22:24 05/03/12 (0)
- All this time.... - JayG 10:14:25 05/03/12 (1)
- RE: All this time.... - lord addleford 11:05:01 05/03/12 (0)
- If a guy 'needs' a certain piece of gear to get the 'meaning' of a piece of music. It's the person, not gear. - Enophile 09:17:40 05/03/12 (1)
- Is that really you in the black rubber suit? - genungo 05:23:40 05/05/12 (0)
- RE: Subjectivist Audiophiles ... - Bromo33333 09:15:47 05/03/12 (4)
- Audiophile debates ... - mkuller 11:02:35 05/03/12 (1)
- RE: Audiophile debates ... - Bromo33333 05:26:27 05/06/12 (0)
- RE: Subjectivist Audiophiles ... - JayG 09:53:04 05/03/12 (1)
- RE: Subjectivist Audiophiles ... - Bromo33333 05:21:29 05/06/12 (0)
- Subjectivist Audiophiles ...have, individually and collectively, taken leave of their senses. - Ralph 09:10:17 05/03/12 (10)
- RE: Subjectivist Audiophiles ...have, individually and collectively, taken leave of their senses. - middleground 07:07:32 05/04/12 (9)
- RE: Subjectivist Audiophiles ...have, individually and collectively, taken leave of their senses. - Bromo33333 12:08:27 05/06/12 (0)
- Hmm. Perhaps take a look at this. - Ralph 12:54:10 05/04/12 (4)
- RE: Hmm. Perhaps take a look at this. - middleground 13:59:53 05/04/12 (3)
- There are certain human hearing rules - Ralph 14:39:28 05/04/12 (2)
- RE: There are certain human hearing rules - Bromo33333 12:14:26 05/06/12 (1)
- RE: There are certain human hearing rules - Ralph 12:40:27 05/07/12 (0)
- I am anti-Capitalist too....... - Sordidman 10:51:20 05/04/12 (2)
- RE: I am anti-Capitalist too....... - middleground 11:49:00 05/04/12 (1)
- whatever is sent by the manufacturer and then, - Sordidman 13:46:44 05/04/12 (0)
- Interesting, I've never heard this argument before......what is the "meaning" : ) n/t - Awe-d-o-file 08:57:39 05/03/12 (2)
- If you had a higher priced monitor, you'd know. - Enophile 09:24:45 05/03/12 (1)
- ah yes.......... - Awe-d-o-file 11:09:54 05/03/12 (0)
- RE: Subjectivist Audiophiles ... - bjh 08:41:37 05/03/12 (5)
- bjh - I found your post the most interesting - jult52 07:28:53 05/04/12 (4)
- RE: bjh - I found your post the most interesting - Bromo33333 12:18:56 05/06/12 (0)
- RE: bjh - I found your post the most interesting - bjh 09:26:56 05/04/12 (2)
- As both a Clapton and Beethoven fan, - jult52 09:53:38 05/04/12 (1)
- RE: As both a Clapton and Beethoven fan, - bjh 10:37:41 05/04/12 (0)
- all audiophiles are subjectivist, you can't have it any other - Sordidman 08:39:16 05/03/12 (2)
- Would add three little words at the end.... - JayG 10:05:03 05/03/12 (1)
- Ha! awesome!! -t - Sordidman 10:08:39 05/03/12 (0)
- i must have a lousy system, because - musiclistener 08:38:08 05/03/12 (2)
- RE: i must have a lousy system, because - Coner 09:07:16 05/03/12 (1)
- Alligator Lizards - Kirk57 04:30:59 05/04/12 (0)
- So you are saying..... - Ozzy 08:11:30 05/03/12 (1)
- RE: So you are saying..... - middleground 07:13:14 05/04/12 (0)
- Here's a writeup I did years ago on a (non-existent) A/B switch - rlindsa 07:51:27 05/03/12 (5)
- This Can Also Be Done with "Technical Writing"........ - Todd Krieger 13:44:10 05/03/12 (0)
- This is brilliant.... - JayG 10:23:03 05/03/12 (0)
- Great! - dancingseamonkey 08:52:26 05/03/12 (0)
- I bet you know where to buy Lirpa Loof products! (nt) - mgbpuff 08:14:38 05/03/12 (0)
- [Drool]... liquesence... mesonic charge... [Drool]... Where can I buy one?... - musetap 08:10:38 05/03/12 (0)
- Excessive hyperbole - vinyl phanatic 06:38:00 05/03/12 (3)
- RE: Excessive hyperbole - middleground 07:16:45 05/04/12 (0)
- Bad writing... - mls-stl 07:39:50 05/03/12 (1)
- ...my line conditioner hummed with the anticipation of an imminent lightning strike....nt - musiclistener 08:39:49 05/03/12 (0)
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- Now what I find interesting about that, and why I am dubious... - Steve Parry 13:26:48 05/09/12 (0)
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