Curious to know others' thoughts on this..Lately, I've been borrowing CD's from my township library and ripping them. While it is true that my local taxes pay for these, it is also true that the artist derives no incremental gain from this practice. Am I a thief or just an opportunist?
EDIT ADDED 5/2/12 2:53p.
alright already. point well taken. Sheesh. I hope all of you who wagged a finger are truly guiltless. ..So you never burned a copy of a sister's CD, or made a mix tape using some of your buddy's LP's???
..Though usually not one to succumb to peer pressure, I've decided to do the following.
All 6 CD's I took out yesterday (..just prior to my post) are going back without ripping; though I will probably listen to all of them first.
Of the 21 CD's I previously ripped, I have not listened to 8 of them; I will delete those now. That leaves 13 that I have listened to. ..Of those, 7 are not worth ever listening to again so I will delete those too but will nothing more to "right the wrong". ..They kinda suck, so too bad. ..This leaves 6 that I've listened to more than once. ..Over the next two weeks I will purchase each of these on iTunes (if available) or Amazon (if not..).
EDIT: Comment added 5/3/12 12:47p
Some of you here seem to be extrapolating what I have admitted to doing to mean that I also engaged in other forms of music pilfering.
So that there's no misunderstanding about the breadth of my transgressions let it be known that I have NEVER downloaded music off Napster or movies/TV shows, etc.. off of BitTorrent or any other such peer-to-peer service, etc. Never. Extracting songs from CDs I check out of the library struck me as different because these CDs were legally obtained by a library which I support with my local taxes (and book and cd donations). Moreover, it seemed clear that the artists compensation was unchanged whether I loaded the songs onto my HD or I returned time and again to the library check the CDs out.
Still, I recognize this was a mistake and will do as described above
Edits: 05/01/12 05/02/12 05/03/12
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Topic - Ethics of ripping CD's borrowed from my township library - hifi heretic 15:16:00 05/01/12 (99)
- Ethics of ripping CD's? - Whose freaking Ethics? - DaveT 09:01:56 05/05/12 (1)
- RE: Ethics of ripping CD's? - Whose freaking Ethics? - Inmate51 08:13:11 05/06/12 (0)
- RE: Ethics of ripping CD's borrowed from my township library - josh358 07:07:57 05/05/12 (0)
- beats me - jimmyjames 11:51:46 05/03/12 (0)
- It's NOT stealing if ... - Feanor 08:54:19 05/03/12 (2)
- That reminds of that Seinfeld episode with George talking about lying... - Raiderman 12:21:30 05/03/12 (1)
- I think you missed the punch line ^ - Feanor 18:22:17 05/03/12 (0)
- Double standard? - driver8 08:38:31 05/03/12 (17)
- RE: Double standard? - HarlemAirShaft 15:09:13 05/03/12 (1)
- RE: Double standard? - driver8 15:53:24 05/03/12 (0)
- RE: Double standard? - Inmate51 11:09:42 05/03/12 (7)
- Must I spoon feed you? - driver8 12:23:38 05/03/12 (0)
- RE: Double standard? - hifi heretic 11:20:59 05/03/12 (5)
- RE: Double standard? - Inmate51 11:52:18 05/03/12 (4)
- RE: Double standard? - hifi heretic 11:59:18 05/03/12 (3)
- RE: Double standard? - Inmate51 12:27:01 05/03/12 (2)
- RE: Double standard? - hifi heretic 13:24:32 05/03/12 (1)
- RE: Double standard? - Inmate51 10:29:02 05/04/12 (0)
- hard sale - Green Lantern 09:46:08 05/03/12 (4)
- RE: hard sale - driver8 10:44:36 05/03/12 (3)
- epic fail - Green Lantern 18:50:24 05/03/12 (2)
- RE: epic fail - driver8 04:03:59 05/04/12 (1)
- it would appear I stand corrected - Green Lantern 09:05:39 05/04/12 (0)
- RE: Double standard? - Tony Lauck 09:23:33 05/03/12 (1)
- RE: Double standard? - driver8 10:50:14 05/03/12 (0)
- So you know... - hifi heretic 07:32:13 05/03/12 (2)
- "the artists compensation was unchanged" - BS64 20:40:54 05/03/12 (0)
- RE: That's not good enough... - Eldragon@gmx.com 08:14:08 05/03/12 (0)
- RE: Ethics of ripping CD's borrowed from my township library - AbeCollins 06:11:49 05/03/12 (0)
- It's stealing but not from the artists... - RGA 03:53:02 05/03/12 (4)
- RE: It's stealing but not from the artists... - Inmate51 06:08:00 05/03/12 (3)
- RE: It's stealing but not from the artists... - RGA 06:29:40 05/03/12 (2)
- RE: It's stealing but not from the artists... - Inmate51 11:26:12 05/03/12 (1)
- RE: It's stealing but not from the artists... - RGA 07:02:31 05/05/12 (0)
- when I go to a bar or club and hear an artist performing a popular tune - Green Lantern 19:52:29 05/02/12 (3)
- The club pays a fee to ASCAP, BMI, etc. for bands to play covers *NT - MaggiesAndCats 06:23:39 05/03/12 (1)
- RE: The club pays a fee to ASCAP, BMI, etc. for bands to play covers *NT - Green Lantern 06:31:39 05/03/12 (0)
- final thought on this matter (I promise)- an observation - Green Lantern 04:57:58 05/03/12 (0)
- Stay away from my record racks - Ozzie 19:22:33 05/02/12 (0)
- RE: Ethics of ripping CD's borrowed from my township library - still kicking 18:06:31 05/02/12 (2)
- RE: Ethics of ripping CD's borrowed from my township library - Inmate51 11:39:37 05/05/12 (0)
- RE: Ethics of ripping CD's borrowed from my township library - Inmate51 18:30:18 05/02/12 (0)
- RE:You asked for it... - Eldragon@gmx.com 16:51:38 05/02/12 (0)
- mea culpa already!!! sheesh - hifi heretic 11:47:24 05/02/12 (2)
- RE: mea culpa already!!! sheesh - Rod H. 19:38:19 05/02/12 (0)
- RE: mea culpa already!!! sheesh - Inmate51 18:10:58 05/02/12 (0)
- United States Pirate Party - Tony Lauck 11:19:12 05/02/12 (0)
- Contact our Philadelphia headquarters immediately!!! - FBI-WARNING!!! 10:01:50 05/02/12 (0)
- RE: The lady doth protest too much, methinks ...nt - Condorsat 07:51:37 05/02/12 (1)
- RE: The lady doth protest too much, methinks ...nt - hifi heretic 08:37:42 05/02/12 (0)
- {{{Am I a thief or just an opportunist?}}} ~ Both! ~t - three_sox 01:01:34 05/02/12 (1)
- RE: dumb (no attempt to know the difference) [no text] - Hi-Fi Nut 06:23:29 05/02/12 (0)
- RE: Ethics of ripping CD's borrowed from my township library - Inmate51 23:39:42 05/01/12 (0)
- RE: Ethics of ripping CD's borrowed from my township library - EmailTim 21:42:55 05/01/12 (3)
- RE: Ethics of ripping CD's borrowed from my township library - Inmate51 23:22:21 05/01/12 (2)
- RE: Ethics of ripping CD's borrowed from my township library - EmailTim 09:07:43 05/02/12 (1)
- RE: Ethics of ripping CD's borrowed from my township library - Inmate51 10:34:43 05/02/12 (0)
- RE: Ethics of ripping CD's borrowed from my township library - Bill the K 20:19:34 05/01/12 (0)
- How many of those ripped CDs would you have *bought*? - Feanor 20:07:52 05/01/12 (7)
- RE: How many of those ripped CDs would you have *bought*? - RGA 04:10:51 05/03/12 (4)
- No, your argument is flawed - Feanor 09:03:08 05/03/12 (1)
- RE: No, your argument is flawed - RGA 07:29:02 05/05/12 (0)
- RE: How many of those ripped CDs would you have *bought*? - Tony Lauck 08:09:10 05/03/12 (1)
- No question: it is legally theft ^ - Feanor 09:04:31 05/03/12 (0)
- RE: How about buying used CDs? - Postal Grunt 18:57:07 05/02/12 (1)
- First-sale doctrine - Tony Lauck 07:51:01 05/03/12 (0)
- whats the difference between that and tape recording a song off the radio when you were younger.. - Green Lantern 18:49:50 05/01/12 (8)
- No difference. they were worried then, just now you can be fined thousands of dollars for every song - Elizabeth 22:09:13 05/02/12 (2)
- doubtful if the RIAA will spend thousands upon thousands of dollars - Green Lantern 03:30:18 05/03/12 (1)
- RE: doubtful if the RIAA will spend thousands upon thousands of dollars - Tony Lauck 07:48:39 05/03/12 (0)
- RE: whats the difference between that and tape recording a song off the radio when you were younger.. - hifi heretic 19:04:45 05/01/12 (4)
- most libraries are covered by 'fair use' otherwise - Green Lantern 23:33:10 05/01/12 (3)
- two other points: - Green Lantern 23:37:41 05/01/12 (2)
- RE: two other points: - Jack G 08:29:51 05/02/12 (1)
- good point- - Green Lantern 05:40:22 05/03/12 (0)
- RE: I say, steal everything that can be stolen! - Eldragon@gmx.com 17:56:44 05/01/12 (0)
- RE: Ethics of ripping CD's borrowed from my township library - volunteer 17:55:02 05/01/12 (0)
- It's no different than downloading music you haven't paid for - Paully 16:23:30 05/01/12 (0)
- RE: Ethics of ripping CD's borrowed from my township library - IEaudiodude 16:17:45 05/01/12 (0)
- Art should be free. Forget the lawyers. * - mr grits 16:13:31 05/01/12 (11)
- Only if the person producing it wants it to be free - Paully 17:58:45 05/01/12 (8)
- RE: Only if the person producing it wants it to be free - jaydacus 18:21:33 05/01/12 (7)
- Very true! - mwhitmore 08:18:15 05/02/12 (5)
- Darn Good Question - Paully 08:25:02 05/02/12 (4)
- I didn't say the record companies were acting illegally. - mwhitmore 11:14:56 05/02/12 (3)
- RE: I didn't say the record companies were acting illegally. - Paully 11:31:00 05/02/12 (2)
- I enjoy the debate too. - mwhitmore 16:55:30 05/02/12 (1)
- RE: I enjoy the debate too. - Paully 09:21:39 05/03/12 (0)
- We aren't talking about anti-biotics - Paully 06:23:37 05/02/12 (0)
- It could be - if govt supported the artists. You in favor of that? * - rlindsa 16:38:45 05/01/12 (0)
- Lame. nt - Rick W 16:26:49 05/01/12 (0)
- I hear your guilt pangs! - jedrider 15:51:51 05/01/12 (1)
- RE: I hear your guilt pangs! - hifi heretic 15:55:20 05/01/12 (0)
- Not a huge crime and not worth debating nt - scruffy_ 15:46:15 05/01/12 (0)
- Ethics? - Astroimage 15:23:57 05/01/12 (0)
- Shiver me timbers, matey, you're a pirate! - Enophile 15:21:28 05/01/12 (3)
- RE: Shiver me timbers, matey, you're a pirate! - IEaudiodude 16:26:40 05/01/12 (2)
- RE: Shiver me timbers, matey, you're a pirate! - Douger 04:57:23 05/03/12 (1)
- RE: Shiver me timbers, matey, you're a pirate! - Tony Lauck 08:12:08 05/03/12 (0)