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SACD bombed very, very badly. So,

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I, for one, am quite pleased with redbook and would only consider another massive replacement investment were it truly to raise the bar. Frankly, considering that sota seventies equipment playing good vinyl wasn't surpassed by digital... I think perhaps we've reached the limits sound reproduction.

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Somebody forgot to tell the folks at SA-CD.net, there are now 4,536 SA-CDs. - Teresa 01:29:49 05/20/07 (1)
- After seven years of existence - 4536 SACD titles! Whoa! - porky_pig_jr 15:03:21 05/22/07 (0)
Nice troll, tin. You da' man! - Bruce from DC 15:30:48 05/18/07 (0)
Double blind tests... - KlausR. 00:16:52 05/17/07 (7)
- Re: "...does the public in general recognize the advantages and benefits of new formats. Apparently it doesn't." - tlyyra 05:45:08 05/17/07 (6)
  - Re: "...does the public in general recognize the advantages and benefits of new formats. Apparently it doesn't." - KlausR. 08:06:23 05/17/07 (5)
    - Re: "...does the public in general recognize the advantages and benefits of new formats. Apparently it doesn't." - tlyyra 09:18:14 05/17/07 (4)
      - Re: hi-rez is increased definition and dynamics - KlausR. 04:36:22 05/18/07 (3)
        
        Re: hi-rez is increased definition and dynamics - tlyyra 05:54:57 05/18/07 (2)
        
        Re: better solutions in our audio systems - KlausR. 06:19:11 05/18/07 (1)
        
        Re: better solutions in our audio systems - tlyyra 07:55:53 05/18/07 (0)
SACD: mixed bag, IME - cdb 20:16:11 05/15/07 (0)
The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated - Joe M 19:47:14 05/15/07 (0)
SACD bombed very, very badly - one suggestion why - John C. - Aussie 17:48:36 05/15/07 (0)
Just to see how badly it bombed, - sser2 17:01:37 05/15/07 (3)
- 2 Channel Is Better Than 5? - Robertc88 06:38:52 05/16/07 (2)
  - I was joking. - sser2 09:30:59 05/16/07 (1)
    - Lots Are Giving Up Though - Robertc88 12:02:26 05/16/07 (0)
Agreed, but redbook digital is usually poorly processed - but try out the new Benchmark DAC 1 mod from Empirical Audio - John C. - Aussie 15:08:23 05/15/07 (0)
Re: SACD bombed very, very badly. So, - Dan Banquer 12:50:42 05/15/07 (0)
Re: SACD bombed very, very badly. So, - Todd Krieger 12:50:19 05/15/07 (0)
Re: SACD bombed very, very badly. So, - Dr. S. 12:46:29 05/15/07 (29)
- Re: SACD bombed very, very badly. So, - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 14:27:43 05/15/07 (28)
  - Re: SACD bombed very, very badly. So, - Dr. S 20:33:22 05/15/07 (27)
    - Re: SACD bombed very, very badly. So, - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 09:57:43 05/16/07 (25)
      - Ok, so I will try this without being snotty - Dr. S 20:49:50 05/16/07 (24)
        
        Re: Ok, so I will try this without being snotty - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 11:02:25 05/17/07 (19)
        
        Chris "High-rez PCM is superior to DSD"? Not in my system! - Teresa 23:55:26 05/19/07 (3)
        
        RE: Chris "High-rez PCM is superior to DSD"? Not in my system! - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 03:33:55 05/20/07 (2)
        
        Here you go Chris in your own words in this very thread: - Teresa 17:23:35 05/20/07 (1)
        
        RE: Here you go Chris in your own words in this very thread: - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 10:10:37 05/21/07 (0)
        
        Re: Ok, so I will try this without being snotty - Dr. S 15:37:55 05/18/07 (10)
        
        Re: Ok, so I will try this without being snotty - Christopher Redmond 00:32:14 05/19/07 (9)
        
        F.Y.I: There is NO audible noise with PURE DSD even though headphones. 192kHz PCM has more audible noise for example. - Teresa 00:00:44 05/20/07 (5)
        
        RE: F.Y.I: There is NO audible noise with PURE DSD even though headphones. 192kHz PCM has more audible noise for exampl - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 03:40:47 05/20/07 (4)
        
        All I am saying is just listen for yourself on your Stax Lambda - Teresa 16:56:58 05/20/07 (3)
        
        RE: All I am saying is just listen for yourself on your Stax Lambda - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 09:57:28 05/21/07 (2)
        
        RE: All I am saying is just listen for yourself on your Stax Lambda - Teresa 22:31:13 05/21/07 (1)
        
        RE: All I am saying is just listen for yourself on your Stax Lambda - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 10:40:58 05/22/07 (0)
        
        Re: Ok, so I will try this without being snotty - Dr. S 21:34:17 05/19/07 (2)
        
        Re: Ok, so I will try this without being snotty - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 06:39:51 05/20/07 (1)
        
        Re: Corporate Greed - Dr. S 13:50:43 05/20/07 (0)
        
        Re: What you believe ... - Dr. S 06:57:43 05/18/07 (3)
        
        Re: What you believe ... - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 10:00:30 05/18/07 (2)
        
        Re: What you believe ... - Dr. S 14:53:01 05/20/07 (1)
        
        Yes - horse flogged but it's been fun :0) [nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 15:40:59 05/20/07 (0)
        
        Yes, but here's the irony - Dave Pogue 05:14:14 05/17/07 (3)
        
        Re: Ah yes, the irony - Dr. S 07:09:34 05/17/07 (2)
        
        Re: Ah yes, the irony - Dave Pogue 08:49:12 05/17/07 (1)
        
        Re: Losses - Dr. S 11:11:02 05/17/07 (0)
    - Well said!! (nt) - JCS 01:57:01 05/16/07 (0)
LONG LIVE THE CD!!! - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 12:04:54 05/15/07 (20)
- "CD is and always has been capable of the very finest audio replay available" ?????????????????? - Teresa 00:20:06 05/20/07 (0)
- "A different taste which excited the pallet." My poor pallet only gets excited... - clarkjohnsen 10:14:03 05/16/07 (4)
  - Re: "A different taste which excited the pallet." My poor pallet only gets excited... - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 11:33:56 05/16/07 (3)
    - Pallet... palette... Get it? nt - clarkjohnsen 12:08:05 05/16/07 (2)
      - Palate, perhaps? (nt) - Dave Pogue 05:20:01 05/17/07 (0)
      - Goddit! :0) [nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 12:24:32 05/16/07 (0)
- Re: LONG LIVE THE CD!!! - truthseekerprime 08:24:54 05/16/07 (7)
  - "The memory player is pure, 100% snake oil marketed to suckers." Pity. - clarkjohnsen 09:57:25 05/16/07 (6)
    - read their white paper then - truthseekerprime 11:43:06 05/16/07 (5)
      - Re: read their white paper then - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 12:42:18 05/16/07 (0)
      - "This... is total nonsense." It's all back to you, and what you think, again. Some "seeker"! nt - clarkjohnsen 12:09:34 05/16/07 (3)
        
        huh? - truthseekerprime 12:20:12 05/16/07 (2)
        
        "...but I don't think you are." Always what *you* think. And wrong every time! nt - clarkjohnsen 12:30:44 05/16/07 (1)
        
        Umm... yeah, obviously my posts are about what *I* think. - truthseekerprime 12:42:34 05/16/07 (0)
- Re: LONG LIVE THE CD!!! - audioengr 15:24:42 05/15/07 (0)
- Quite an obtuse statement... - Mr_bill2 12:59:59 05/15/07 (4)
  - Re: Quite an obtuse statement... - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 14:08:43 05/15/07 (3)
    - Actually, I didn't think you would care... - Mr_bill2 15:06:56 05/15/07 (2)
      - Re: Actually, I didn't think you would care... - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 16:17:29 05/15/07 (1)
        
        Oh..T&C, now I understand. - Mr_bill2 16:48:51 05/15/07 (0)
So did you by not posting in the proper forum...ZZZZZZZZZZ....nt - The Bastard With The Hammer 11:07:28 05/15/07 (3)
- nothing wrong with posting the sacd subject here - hifitommy 18:48:40 05/15/07 (2)
  - Don't you find it ironic - Sordidman 11:16:50 05/16/07 (0)
  - Agreed - Robertc88 06:23:03 05/16/07 (0)
Re: SACD bombed very, very badly. So, - illini_skn 10:15:09 05/15/07 (0)
I pray for redbook-quality downloads, hopefully well-recorded - Jon L 09:42:28 05/15/07 (1)
- Why aim so low? Why not 24 Bit 96kHz downloads? They are coming by the way. - Teresa 00:32:01 05/20/07 (0)
Multichannel - Robertc88 09:34:05 05/15/07 (2)
- Re: Multichannel - rico 10:01:57 05/15/07 (0)
- Re: Multichannel ---yeah! - mikel 09:38:53 05/15/07 (0)
CD bombed very, very badly. So, - Norm 09:10:11 05/15/07 (0)
Re: SACD bombed very, very badly. So, - Don T 09:09:06 05/15/07 (1)
- Yep - Sordidman 10:13:25 05/15/07 (0)
I dunno, man... - Presto 09:02:13 05/15/07 (35)
- Re: I dunno, man... - audioengr 15:39:47 05/15/07 (3)
  - Which Metheny album sounds so awful? - Dave Pogue 05:23:55 05/17/07 (2)
    - Re: Which Metheny album sounds so awful? - I thought the DVD Audio of Imaginary Day sounded terrible. (nt) - Teresa 01:35:55 05/20/07 (1)
      - Imaginary Day is an atypical Metheny album, IMHO - Dave Pogue 05:19:58 05/20/07 (0)
- Woohoo! - markrohr 09:28:40 05/15/07 (30)
  - I never said that. - Presto 23:20:38 05/15/07 (17)
    - You hit the nail on the head! Would you drink the beer you LOVE if it was WARM? - Teresa 00:53:35 05/20/07 (0)
    - this seems completely artificial to me... - tunenut 22:51:26 05/16/07 (3)
      - maybe you don't like the artists on Reference Recordings? Or the music? - Teresa 00:45:06 05/20/07 (0)
      - Artificial? I think not. - Presto 10:56:19 05/17/07 (1)
        
        that's very idealistic - tunenut 11:19:00 05/17/07 (0)
    - "This is not MUSICasylum. It's AUDIOasylum." ---Sez it all. - markrohr 10:18:28 05/16/07 (11)
      - Well, you did say... - Presto 11:29:59 05/16/07 (10)
        
        Please, for goodness' sake, stop with the analogies already. - markrohr 13:46:59 05/16/07 (9)
        
        Well I don't drink beer anymore but... - Presto 17:11:45 05/16/07 (8)
        
        "I really don't think asking for both is as limiting..." I agree with you 100% also - Teresa 01:04:57 05/20/07 (0)
        
        So you won't listen to a great performance of a classical work, or a killer pop record, unless it sounds good. - markrohr 11:18:22 05/17/07 (6)
        
        with all the 100's of recordings this old MONO "Das Lied" is the ONLY one that has ever moved you. - Teresa 01:09:36 05/20/07 (0)
        
        That depends on how you feel about being called an audiophile I suppose!! :o) - Presto 16:55:14 05/17/07 (4)
        
        If "improvements" to your system make iffy records sound worse . . . - markrohr 05:32:18 05/18/07 (3)
        
        No, having more than one system is the ONLY direction - Presto 10:23:44 05/18/07 (2)
        
        Re: No, having more than one system is the ONLY direction - markrohr 12:01:26 05/18/07 (1)
        
        Re: No, having more than one system is the ONLY direction - Presto 13:38:28 05/18/07 (0)
  - give me great music on a shitty recording any day! - hifitommy 18:45:30 05/15/07 (8)
    - I prefer a third option: Great music on great recordings and I get it too! - Teresa 01:14:09 05/20/07 (2)
      - thats wonderful when it happens - hifitommy 08:43:18 05/20/07 (1)
        
        Also great sounding are the multi-mic'ed Decca/London Phase 4 recordings conducted by Berrnard Herrmann. - Teresa 17:30:21 05/20/07 (0)
    - Re: give me great music on a shitty recording any day! - Dave Pogue 05:23:11 05/18/07 (1)
      - iec - hifitommy 11:44:31 05/20/07 (0)
    - Emailed you last week - need your address fine sir to send CDs. [nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 10:08:57 05/16/07 (1)
      - ooopsy - hifitommy 20:06:49 05/16/07 (0)
    - Absotutely! nt - clarkjohnsen 10:00:02 05/16/07 (0)
  - "Who has time to listen to great recordings of lousy performances?" - musetap 11:22:46 05/15/07 (2)
    - Quite correct, my great recordings of lousy performances go on eBay. (nt) - Teresa 01:17:04 05/20/07 (0)
    - Well said. (nt) - Presto 11:01:21 05/17/07 (0)
Re: SACD bombed very, very badly. So, - some young guy 08:33:49 05/15/07 (10)
- Re: SACD bombed very, very badly. So, - Ozzy 08:37:39 05/15/07 (9)
  - Re: SACD bombed very, very badly. So, - jharris 09:00:06 05/15/07 (8)
    - Re: SACD bombed very, very badly. So, - Ozzy 09:18:22 05/15/07 (7)
      - Re: SACD bombed very, very badly. So, - jharris 15:20:11 05/15/07 (4)
        
        Re: SACD bombed very, very badly. So, - Ozzy 01:54:30 05/16/07 (3)
        
        I think you - jharris 03:57:44 05/16/07 (2)
        
        Re: I think you - Ozzy 07:21:56 05/16/07 (1)
        
        Re: I think you - jharris 09:22:06 05/16/07 (0)
      - Re: SACD bombed very, very badly. So, - some young guy 13:58:13 05/15/07 (0)
      - IMO, - Esoteric's transport and "better" redbook - Sordidman 10:09:23 05/15/07 (0)

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