In Reply to: And your point is... posted by jsm on February 14, 2007 at 13:28:49:
It was just a lame audiophile joke, so there was no need to analyze it!Any audiophiles who believe measurements are more important than listening are so far at the audio fringe that there needs to be a new title: Objectivists focus on how to listen to audio equipment in a way that reduces possible biases.
Measurements, even of speakers, are only a rough guide to individual preferences. The room has a huge effect and all rooms differ,
Measurements of electronics reveal little (except amplifier clipping, which can only sound bad, if audible)
The subjective-objective debate is over whether listening to components playing at different volumes, and/or knowing the brand/model in use, could bias an audition.
For speakers and cartridges, both subjectivists and objectivists agree that differences are easy enough to hear, so small A-B volume differences, and knowing the brand, are not very important.
For electronics, and especially wires, there is a huge disagreement.
Both subjective and objective audiophiles are in 100% agreement on one thing: The other group consists of people who are easily fooled, or are just plain fools (it's always nice to have complete agreement on at least one subject).
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Richard BassNut Greene
Subjective Audiophile 2007
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Follow Ups
- "When are people going to give up on this subjective-objective debate" -- the debate is NOT measurements vs. listening - Richard BassNut Greene 13:56:06 02/14/07 (5)
- Lame? LAME?!? I thought it was cute. You suck RBNG. :o) nt - Presto 13:57:46 02/14/07 (4)
- NO NO! He's a *good* objectivist, please take him back into the fold.... - bjh 18:46:04 02/14/07 (3)
- Resistance is Futile BJH. Be one with us. The Objective - Presto 22:00:30 02/14/07 (2)
- Not until I become senile or suffer a massive head trauma! LOL nt - bjh 03:28:56 02/15/07 (1)
- That has already happened but ... - Richard BassNut Greene 07:04:57 02/15/07 (0)