In Reply to: "unnaturally crisp quality of digital sound" can be eliminated posted by Richard BassNut Greene on August 7, 2006 at 13:52:51:
There is a big difference between high frequency rolloff due to concert hall acoustics and the effect you can adjust for in a sound reproducing system. Reviewing my valuable book on data for about 200 concert halls around the world, it is amazing how consistantly their ILG response shows a rolloff starting at about 2 to 4 khz and down about 7 to 10 db at 10 khz. But the direct sound field reaching the listener is flat or very close to it. This usually constitutes less than 10 % of the total sound field reaching him from the instruments. It is also expressed by the data that typically, RT at 1 khz is around 2.0 or more seconds while at 8 to 10 khz, it is often around 1.2 seconds. This emphasizes the fact that at a live performance, hf rolloff is a dynamic event inseparable from the reverberation while in a home sound system, it is applied to each entire sonic event from its first inception to its last audible decay. This means if you are trying to reproduce the exact timbre of musical instruments as they are heard at a live concert using our current technology, that no matter what frequency response your sound system has, it is wrong! Without reproducing the reverberation, you cannot recapture the timbre, they are inseparable. This is one reason why so much of what is written and said about high end consumer audio equipment is so laughable.
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- Re: "unnaturally crisp quality of digital sound" can be eliminated - Soundmind 04:51:36 08/08/06 (18)
- 'Nothing is news', is not a salient point. - soulfood 07:56:25 08/08/06 (0)
- Concert Hall at home -- high frequency rolloff is a dynamic event? - Richard BassNut Greene 07:54:19 08/08/06 (16)
- Re: Concert Hall at home -- high frequency rolloff is a dynamic event? - Dave Kingsland 09:38:10 08/08/06 (15)
- Re: Concert Hall at home -- high frequency rolloff is a dynamic event? - Soundmind 15:00:40 08/08/06 (13)
- Re: Concert Hall at home -- high frequency rolloff is a dynamic event? - theaudiohobby 04:37:33 08/09/06 (5)
- Insofar as recordings are concerned - Soundmind 06:14:18 08/09/06 (4)
- Boy you need to listen to better systems... Perhaps even multichannel [nt] - Ted Smith 11:00:36 08/09/06 (3)
- And you need to listen to live music..in concert halls, and not in the front row either [nt] - Soundmind 15:06:38 08/09/06 (2)
- I do [nt] - Ted Smith 15:18:58 08/09/06 (1)
- I now pronounce you man and wife - Richard BassNut Greene 13:16:29 08/10/06 (0)
- Yes, it's a matter of personal preference - Dave Kingsland 20:31:05 08/08/06 (0)
- Re: Concert Hall at home -- high frequency rolloff is a dynamic event? - Bob Neill 15:34:43 08/08/06 (5)
- Re: Concert Hall at home -- high frequency rolloff is a dynamic event? - Soundmind 19:27:09 08/08/06 (4)
- Now that's some wisdom! - Tuckers 14:49:36 08/10/06 (0)
- Reproductions are not real. - soulfood 09:15:39 08/09/06 (2)
- Re: Reproductions are not real. - Soundmind 15:26:01 08/09/06 (1)
- A reproduction is "completely short". - soulfood 16:32:36 08/09/06 (0)
- Re: Same here - theaudiohobby 14:50:46 08/08/06 (0)