In Reply to: not really relevant at this point... posted by docwq on August 3, 2006 at 16:04:14:
I originally tried to post the comments below in response to John Marks but his post was deleted in the time between when I started and finished typing so I'll post them here instead. For what it's worth, however, I don't think artistic preferences have anything to do with the issue.So here's my original comments which failed to get posted:
In my view, what matters now about a person is what they are now. There isn't a single one of us who hasn't done bad things in the past but we don't necessarily keep repeating them. Sometimes we learn, sometimes we make amends for past wrongs. Sometimes, sad to say, we don't.
But if what we did in the past counts, whether that be for good or bad, what we've done since then counts equally also. Condemning people out of hand for something done over 50 years ago with no consideration given to why they did it or what they've done since then is simply vindictiveness.
And, if one wishes to raise the question of religious virtues, compassion and forgiveness rate highly in pretty well every religion. It's also worth while remembering that forgiveness doesn't require the other person to do anything, it's an act on our part and it's something we choose to do. Yes it's hard, and sometimes we simply can't manage it, but at the least it can be something we strive to do. Condemning others outright was something the Nazis did, and we don't have to follow in their footsteps.
So, yes, I will disagree with John.
David Aiken
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Follow Ups
- Relevance (for John Marks)... - David Aiken 16:57:30 08/03/06 (14)
- Re: Relevance (for John Marks)... - Bobby G/ 07:12:50 08/04/06 (0)
- Agreed - Bobby G/ 07:08:11 08/04/06 (0)
- Not "out of hand." - John Marks 07:03:37 08/04/06 (9)
- I don't read German - pconr 12:33:05 08/06/06 (5)
- My source for that attribution is Norman Lebrecht's "The Maestro Myth," p.115 - John Marks 14:09:11 08/06/06 (1)
- You've made yourself clear - pconr 17:48:38 08/06/06 (0)
- Re: I don't read German - Brian Cheney 12:42:21 08/06/06 (2)
- Are you saying that there are additional stanzas? - pconr 12:54:32 08/06/06 (1)
- Re: Are you saying that there are additional stanzas? - Brian Cheney 13:49:04 08/06/06 (0)
- Re: Not "out of hand." - David Aiken 14:55:33 08/04/06 (1)
- Re: I do treat others as I think they deserve * - .Guy 15:55:23 08/04/06 (0)
- I agree--NT - lancelot 12:32:18 08/04/06 (0)
- Nice response - unclestu52 20:07:04 08/03/06 (0)
- tribute today on NPR radio... - Joe M 17:28:30 08/03/06 (0)