I read over the weekend of a study that showed if people took a placebo and thought it would produce a result they were able to monitor actual brain activity as if they had taken the real medication. The implications are that if you think you are hearing a change in sound there may be real neural activity that validates your belief even though there may be no real difference at all. This is objective validation of the placebo effect. Any comments?
Alan
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Topic - Placebo effect - ahendler 12:57:53 08/26/05 (68)
- Re: Placebo effect - bbenn 08:06:54 08/29/05 (0)
- If you went to an expensive French restaurant... - Paul_A 12:14:17 08/27/05 (4)
- Re: If you went to an expensive French restaurant... - suretyguy 18:33:40 08/27/05 (3)
- What's more... - Silver Eared John 19:18:01 08/27/05 (2)
- Yes, but you can't take that chemical analysis . . . - markrohr 05:18:20 08/28/05 (0)
- Y'all can measure the difference betwixt copper and silver wire too... - Paul_A 04:53:58 08/28/05 (0)
- Re: Differentiating the Real from the Placebo... - vocalion 11:26:32 08/27/05 (0)
- If you believe you are going to hear a difference... - jimmyjames 04:07:27 08/27/05 (11)
- Re: If you believe you are going to hear a difference... - jcarr 06:08:35 08/27/05 (10)
- People aren't honest with themselves... - Sean 08:31:29 08/27/05 (9)
- audiophiles using gear that is both inaccurate and less than competently designed - chuck55 10:51:56 08/28/05 (1)
- Re: audiophiles using gear that is both inaccurate and less than competently designed - Sean 10:57:55 08/28/05 (0)
- Correction: you aren't honest with yourself. - Al Sekela 10:59:30 08/27/05 (6)
- Re: Correction: you aren't honest with yourself. - Sean 11:28:53 08/27/05 (5)
- God has spoken... - U.S. Mail 01:58:50 08/28/05 (4)
- Re: God has spoken... - Sean 08:32:06 08/28/05 (1)
- Re: Placebo effect - ernstr@xs4all.nl 04:05:45 08/27/05 (12)
- Your reasoning actually justifies DBTs. - Pat D 05:39:38 08/27/05 (10)
- Re: Your reasoning actually justifies DBTs. - ernstr@xs4all.nl 06:49:07 08/28/05 (1)
- Re: Your reasoning actually justifies DBTs. - Pat D 07:16:21 08/28/05 (0)
- Re: Your reasoning actually justifies DBTs. - Jake the fat man 19:13:15 08/27/05 (7)
- Re: Your reasoning actually justifies DBTs. - Pat D 07:21:31 08/28/05 (6)
- You underscore my point - Jake the fat man 14:00:17 08/28/05 (5)
- Oh come now! - Pat D 15:12:43 08/28/05 (4)
- Just vague comments. - Jake the fat man 18:43:17 08/28/05 (3)
- Your certainly were. - Pat D 07:08:21 08/29/05 (2)
- Re: Your certainly were. - Jake the fat man 09:24:36 08/29/05 (1)
- Re: Your certainly were. - Pat D 12:57:34 08/29/05 (0)
- And your alternative for those who need to judge audio equipment is....? - Soundmind 05:15:52 08/27/05 (0)
- sad if you can't even trust your own ears - jeme 20:02:33 08/26/05 (0)
- I've always thought that "The Placebos" would have been a cool name ... - Big Dave 15:46:17 08/26/05 (4)
- Placebo is a name of a excellent current UK band. - Shane From AUS 18:17:45 08/26/05 (2)
- Re: Placebo is a name of a excellent current UK band. Ahh, it's all in your mind. - Guy 01:05:31 08/27/05 (1)
- And don't forget about Placebo Domingo either. [nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 14:07:01 08/29/05 (0)
- Here you go ! - Lambda 15:56:31 08/26/05 (0)
- Re: Placebo effect - David Aiken 15:15:32 08/26/05 (12)
- Ever hear of illusions? They show how flawed human perception really is. - Caymus 17:28:11 08/26/05 (11)
- Re: Ever hear of illusions? They show how flawed human perception really is. - ernstr@xs4all.nl 04:55:15 08/27/05 (6)
- It's really annoying to have people say that if you don't hear differences..... - JimL 10:55:33 08/27/05 (2)
- Agree with your main point, but your setup needs work... - Al Sekela 14:34:00 08/28/05 (0)
- Re: It's really annoying to have people say that if you don't hear differences..... - Pat D 14:10:35 08/27/05 (0)
- The great Korzybski: "THE MAP IS NOT THE TERRITORY." nt - clarkjohnsen 06:55:14 08/27/05 (0)
- masking - Pat D 05:50:12 08/27/05 (0)
- You are defending a position which by definition cannot be proven wrong - Lambda 05:21:12 08/27/05 (0)
- Thank you! Finally some sense around here.... - JimmyJ 21:15:21 08/26/05 (0)
- Re: Ever hear of illusions? They show how flawed human perception really is. - David Aiken 20:14:40 08/26/05 (2)
- Re: Ever hear of illusions? They show how flawed human perception really is. - dr.john 01:25:18 08/28/05 (1)
- I'll side with David Hume… - David Aiken 02:43:59 08/28/05 (0)
- Re: Placebo effect - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 15:11:29 08/26/05 (0)
- Um, no..... - JimL 14:57:07 08/26/05 (0)
- If I recall... - mkuller 14:11:29 08/26/05 (0)
- Placebo effect versus magical thinking. - Al Sekela 14:04:46 08/26/05 (3)
- Re: Placebo effect versus magical thinking. - chris_w 05:24:46 08/27/05 (1)
- Did I say that? I said "magical thinking." - Al Sekela 10:45:47 08/27/05 (0)
- Re: Placebo effect versus magical thinking. - TommyK 18:54:55 08/26/05 (0)
- not quite what you describe... - gonefishin 14:02:27 08/26/05 (1)
- Nice link - nt - TommyK 18:51:27 08/26/05 (0)
- Re: Placebo effect - suretyguy 13:50:19 08/26/05 (7)
- May I recommend a little..... - Bud 14:00:04 08/26/05 (6)
- Re: May I recommend a little..... - suretyguy 14:58:43 08/26/05 (5)
- "objective vs subjective" will never be resolved - jensw 21:48:00 08/26/05 (1)
- Re: "objective vs subjective" will never be resolved - suretyguy 10:59:37 08/27/05 (0)
- Don't take offense... - Bud 16:37:48 08/26/05 (2)
- Re: Don't take offense... - suretyguy 17:08:30 08/26/05 (1)
- Re: Don't take offense... - ahendler 06:09:35 08/29/05 (0)