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You and many of the other naysayers who claim...

...everything but speakers, all cables, all amps all CD players or whatever - all sound the same - are like:

A guy who joins a high-performance car club. But he keep what car he owns a secret. And then he tries to convince the other members to all switch to battery-powered cars because HE think they're better.

>You, for example, could never give a Pioneer receiver a fair audition versus a Classe amplifier because you have a negative attitude about Pioneer and also have the unproven belief that your ears can virtually always hear differences among components. That is typical of audiophiles.>

That's not true. I'd love to be the one who found a Pioneer receiver that outperformed a Classe amplifier. I'd be a star!

>Under blind conditions, you would have the opportunity to give a Pioneer receiver a fair audition, and simultaneously prove whether or not your ears really can consistently hear component differences.>

As an experienced professional observational listener, I developed my own techniques and double-checks to insure what I was hearing and reporting were really audible differences and not sighted biases. My listening panel helped a lot in that area and they often didn't know what they were listening to.

>Or is a blind audition unnecessary because you already "know" what the Pioneer receiver sounds like without even listening to one?>

A proper DBT is very difficult to do and some people perform better in blind tests than others. Why not just have the listeners compare A and B blind? I'll bet they heard plenty of differences. Until you introduced X and they were forced to decide whether it was A or B. That's when the differences disappear.

>Not that any "golden ear" wants to take the chance in public of losing his self-proclaimed "golden ear" status!>

No one is claiming they have golden ears. That's a common criticism of the pro-DBT folks. Come on, you can be more original than that...

>What shame you would have to endure if your ears could not hear the difference between a Pioneer receiver and Classe amplifier! In a double-blind audition in the 1980's, roughly one dozen local audio club members could not hear the difference between a Pioneer receiver and a Classe amplifier with both playing music at the same SPL and no clipping. I was one of the participants.>

The test may have been designed poorly. Was it published anywhere?

>Now it's your turn to dismiss the results of this experiment and attack the characters of the audiophile's involved, in the usual "golden ear" style!>

I dismiss the results of most DBTs because that's not the way we listen to music or normally compare components. Most pro-DBTers feel superior because they own a Pioneer reciever they THINK sounds just as good as a Classe amp for a fraction of the price. Their holier-than-thou attitude is offensive. Particularly since it's a delusion.

>Not that you would ever take an hour of your oh so busy life to prove how perceptive your own ears are ! It's far easier to believe in one's superior hearing ability ... than it is to prove one really has "golden ears".>

I have participated in DBTs, and other blind listening experiments. We used to do them in my audio club, too. Most of them are merely parlor tricks to make small audible differences disappear - then the self-rightous DBTers can feel superior. They don't prove anything.

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