Re: Monster Cable v Monster Vintage, I tried to make some back-channel peace

Ray,

I mean where does all this stop? It's me again. The Monster Employee who has enough since to post here without my real e mail address. Since I see that many of our employee's e mails are posted all over the internet.

This really needs to stop. You are just making yourself look to be the fixer of all wrong in our audio world. Please try to spend more time on KK and less time on Monster.

I mean I give you credit for not bashing Monster out right. You just have to keep posting the "information" you have discovered. Everyeone else seems to do the bashing part just fine.

The forums have all been quite for some time now on this subject. Maybe too quite. But hey no fear Ray is to the rescue.

I have held off from writing a long response on this issue but feel that in light of your new attack on Monster. (Yes Ray that is what many people believe it to be)

It seems funny that one side of your mouth says "oh this press is so bad for the high end wire guy's blah blah blah.. It makes us all look like big dirt bags that charge to much for our products and we keep getting linked to the big MC bullies"

Well here is a hint. If the press is bad then STOP bringing it up so often. Seems you really might have an agenda to this. If you really were so worried about the bad press you are smart enough to know that the more you post the more others will post and then links get made to other sites etc.

In regards to the MV issue and their logo. Yea we were upset when we saw it back up. The only reason we even saw it back up was someone posted a link to it on Club PolkAudio like it was bragging rights. We took offense to it the first go around. I mean obviously we did we filed a law suit about it! Then we decided to drop it since they did take the logo down and there was lot's of bad press about it. We do read ya know and know that there is some bashing going on. We tried to address it with a letter to say that we are not some big bully and that 99.999999% of the info that folks are reading is BS and idiots spewing the same wrong info to other idiots.

We kind of just gave up and backed up a few steps. Well that doesn't seem to be working either.

1. MV decides that in spite of our seriousness about the logo (That many including you see a similarity over. I think if it was similar to your KK logo you might see it as more than a simliarity but maybe that's just me thinking you are carefully choosing words) that they will rub it in our nose and re-post it on their site. I mean what did they think would happen?

2. Victor and Cathy both have told so many LIES out right BS lies that we are pissed and damn right going to go back after them. Many of the "truths" they put on the web are wrong and they know it. Like the $24million dollar "typo" i think you called it. I can see how the 2 and 4 keys are so close to the 6 key. They had a chance to take it down and chose to do that. Now that they think there is some kind of victory they put it back up? Who in their right mind would do that other than someone who wants to flip the middle finger salute to you when you turn your back???

You guys are all entitled to write what you want and say what you want. Ray you have known Noel for what 25 plus years? Me and you have even meet many times from a mutual friend of ours! If you were so worried about Noel and his actions and how it impacts our business why wouldn't you call him? I mean if you put 1/10th the effort in to that effort as you have to keeping this alive on the internet then I bet you could have talked Noel in to not protecting his Trademarks and patents. You almost had me talked in to it.

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Topic - Monster Cable v Monster Vintage, I tried to make some back-channel peace - Ray Kimber 09:05:53 02/12/05 (39)

Re: Monster Cable v Monster Vintage, I tried to make some back-channel peace - mnstrre@yahoo.com 16:08:38 02/14/05 (2)

You should be ashamed to be an employee!!! - bstan 09:36:30 02/15/05 (0)

Yeah Ray, please stop telling the truth. Pretty please .... - Jack Seaton 07:10:44 02/15/05 (0)

Re: Monster Cable v Monster Vintage, I tried to make some back-channel peace - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 13:52:21 02/14/05 (0)

Thanks for keeping us informed, Ray - Todd B. 15:56:34 02/13/05 (0)

What did you expect, Ray? They thought that the dust had settled and that everyone here was tired of the topic. - Jack Seaton 14:44:03 02/13/05 (5)

Re: What did you expect, Ray? They thought that the dust had settled and that everyone here was tired of the topic. - Ray Kimber 07:47:19 02/14/05 (4)

About that insincerity: a hypocritical quote from Noel Lee in an interview - Todd B. 22:48:49 02/14/05 (1)

This just keeps getting better and better .. - Jack Seaton 06:33:38 02/15/05 (0)

a few comments on the details - Bruce from DC 13:22:58 02/14/05 (1)

Re: a few comments on the details - Ray Kimber 14:16:22 02/14/05 (0)

Monster Cable - Bambi B 08:46:57 02/13/05 (0)

Thanks for your posts, Ray. - Hi-Fi Nut 20:14:45 02/12/05 (0)

Hmm... their logos are AWFULLY similar - Howie 20:12:52 02/12/05 (2)

Yes they are - agattu 03:17:29 02/13/05 (1)

Danged Silly Technicality - Ray Kimber 07:25:16 02/13/05 (0)

How much is too much? - badman 19:51:46 02/12/05 (0)

thanks for yet another worthless post Ray :( (nt) - LeasingGuy 17:27:24 02/12/05 (10)

Don't like it? Change the channel. - subcoolman 19:43:20 02/13/05 (0)

It truly is a worthless post.... - uw312@aol.com 08:29:08 02/13/05 (1)

Re: It truly is a worthless post.... - Ray Kimber 09:55:05 02/13/05 (0)

Re: thanks for yet another worthless post Ray :( (nt) - dave derrick 18:04:56 02/12/05 (6)

For Kimber itâ€™s NOT a hobby â€“ itâ€™s a BUSINESS - Caymus 18:28:58 02/12/05 (5)

Re: For Kimber itâ€™s NOT a hobby â€“ itâ€™s a BUSINESS - dave derrick 17:50:01 02/13/05 (0)

It shows your lack of comprehension, that's all ... - Jack Seaton 14:24:23 02/13/05 (0)

ZZZZZzzz. (NTrequired) - DeKay 00:04:18 02/13/05 (0)

Where Mobster Cable is concerned, I bloody well hope so! - Steve Cortez 18:59:48 02/12/05 (1)

Re: Where Mobster Cable is concerned, I bloody well hope so! - laznos 20:28:47 02/12/05 (0)

Thank you very much for the informative updatesâ€¦â€¦â€¦ - three_sox 16:28:21 02/12/05 (0)

Ok, Ray, you got most people's support regarding the Monster issue.... - uw312@aol.com 11:22:13 02/12/05 (6)

You read posts like you read billboards - bwkendall 14:33:46 02/12/05 (1)

LOL! (nt) - subcoolman 19:45:17 02/13/05 (0)

Oh dear...... Once again you seem to have gone out of your way to display your boorish character.... - feet's too big 12:51:01 02/12/05 (0)

I disagree too... - AbeCollins 12:41:57 02/12/05 (0)

I disagree.... - Cetaele 11:47:26 02/12/05 (1)

yup - CD 13:49:26 02/12/05 (0)

What the F**** is wrong with Monster Cable!!!??... is DT so free to phone harass innocent people???(nt) - Steve Cortez 09:45:00 02/12/05 (2)

Not trying to defend 'em but... - Chris_F 12:02:19 02/12/05 (1)

Re: Not trying to defend 'em but... - Ray Kimber 13:56:02 02/12/05 (0)

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Re: Monster Cable v Monster Vintage, I tried to make some back-channel peace - mnstrre@yahoo.com 16:08:38 02/14/05 (2)

You should be ashamed to be an employee!!! - bstan 09:36:30 02/15/05 (0)

Yeah Ray, please stop telling the truth. Pretty please .... - Jack Seaton 07:10:44 02/15/05 (0)

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